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SKS? perfect rifle for anything?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by DontBurnMyFlag, Sep 16, 2004.

  1. DontBurnMyFlag

    DontBurnMyFlag Well-Known Member

    I have an SKS. I think it is one of the perfect rifles for survival, varmints, hunting, ranch defense, home defense and semi long range rifle. its not the best rifle out there. but shouldnt everyone own at least one...?
  2. Dave R

    Dave R Well-Known Member

    Excellent value for the $$ spent.

    I can think of better rifles for hunting and for varmits, but none of those will also do all the other things an SKS will do.
  3. Doug S

    Doug S Well-Known Member

    It is a perfect $100 rifle. It is much better than the price would indicate.
  4. BHPshooter

    BHPshooter Well-Known Member

    Sure... it's perfect for my budget. ;)

    Really, they're amazing rifles. All kinds of widgets and doodads.

  5. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    The Russian Mini-14, Except the Russin version WORKS!
  6. DWS1117

    DWS1117 Well-Known Member

    With honorable mentions going to the Chineese, Romanians, and Yugoslavians.

    Oh yeah I guess the Albanians too.:D
  7. MrMurphy

    MrMurphy Well-Known Member

    For a design that's a miniaturized antitank rifle, it does pretty much everything fairly well.

    I would prefer a higher capacity for combat use (as the Soviets found) but it does a pretty decent job as is.
  8. Kurt

    Kurt Well-Known Member

    There is no contest if value per dollar is a main criteria. They do a lot of things well.

    However, I have always found the SKS breed unecessarily long and heavy feeling, especially when compared to it's generational offspring ... the AK (SAR-1, AKM).

    I believe that there could be times when the more convential appearance of the SKS would be desireable. But if I'll ever NEED a semiauto 7.62X39 for anything besides hunting or varmints, I take a fast handling, stamped AK type every time.
  9. rbernie

    rbernie Well-Known Member

    Ah, but we could probably say this about most rounds and rifles, yet somehow they manage to do their jobs just fine.

    I can get 2-3" groups at 100 yards out of my Norinco SKS, and do it with a round that (especially with the excellent Barnaul softpoints @ $2.50/20) gives me the same performance as a 150gr 30-30. This places the SKS about on par with the traditional lever-action brush gun and round.

    No, not the ideal varmint solution and not the ideal long-range big game solution. But *anything* within 150 yards (remember, most deer are harvested within 80 yards) is gonna get a whalloping if you choose to use your SKS with some decent ammo on it. And that's worthy of some acknowledgment.
  10. Ash

    Ash Well-Known Member

    The SKS is an excellent Truck gun, one that can be carried about while in the field without too much worry about damage. Given that many are so expensive (for a while, Chinese SKS's were $250 here), even the lower cost ones tend to be $150 or more not counting C&R FFL, a good Marlin 336 or Winchester 94 become worthy contenders however. In other words, the Marlin I bought for $175 in excellent condition is more accurate and less "assault rifle" than the SKS, but equally important, about the same price as one. Now, the SKS is much cheaper to feed, is utterly rugged, has better sights than the Marlin, and carries more ammo. If I were on the farm still, I would probably carry the SKS as a tractor gun for rabid racoons and the like, and the Marlin in the sling behind the back seat on the truck.

  11. MrMurphy

    MrMurphy Well-Known Member

    The 7.62X39mm round, like most assault-rifle-type medium powered rounds is made for realistic combat distances, 0 to 300-350m. More like 200m in most cases. So 0-150m is perfectly fine for what it was designed for.
  12. rbernie

    rbernie Well-Known Member

    That's great. Me? I'd rather use a long gun than a pistol for just about anything beyond 10 yards. And the ground from 10 yards to 150 yards is ruled by light, fast carbines such as the SKS and the lever-action, especially if follow-up shots might be required (and if you're trying to humanely kill some four-legged critter rather than just perforate it with a lot of little itty bitty pieces of copper-n-lead).

    Well, I doubt that you're gonna be killing many deer with the 5.56 GI round, but that's just me. If you're referring to the 7.62 NATO round, that's a different story (but that takes us back to the 'the 7.62x39 doesn't do real well on varmints' complaint you raised earlier).

    Somehow, I feel like we're having two conversations here. Your first objection was that the SKS (and, by reference, the 7.62x39 round) wasn't powerful enough for, among other things, taking down bear. Now, we're talking about taking down men at 400+ yards and having a 22LR capability.

    From all of this, I presume that you're a fan of the AR. That's great - so am I. But I also am a fan of the SKS, and truth be told I'm more likely to reach for my SKS if I need a truck gun or other medium range long weapon than I am to reach for an AR15 or AR10.

    What am I missing here?
  13. ID_shooting

    ID_shooting Well-Known Member

    While I currently dont own one (that will be my first purchase when my C&R gets back) I have witnessed some impressive shooting with one.

    Granted my firends has had trigger work, stock work and was resting on a harris, I saw him poping 8/10 milk jugs at 300 w/ stock sights and mil-surp ammo. Very impressive shooting skills!

    As for over prnetration, well, pick right round for the job. Don't use AP FMJ rounds for deer/yote hunting. Pretty darn simple concept.

    For an affordable, quick snap shooting carbine with enough power to get the job done, it rivals my mod 94 in every regard and quicker to reload.
  14. R.H. Lee

    R.H. Lee Well-Known Member

    The SKS was not designed to be a "hunting" rifle, although it has served that purpose. It was designed for peasants to hold off invading hordes until the regular army showed up. It is easy to operate, requires little maintenance and uses a deadly intermediate range round. For us, it is inexpensive, practically indestructable, and cheap to shoot. Plus it is fun, and you can use the bayo to cook meat over an open fire. :p It is accurate enough for "minute of torso" shots against anything that could be a threat within a couple of hundred yards. See www.simonov.net for more information. :)
  15. ID_shooting

    ID_shooting Well-Known Member

    Please take no offence by this but...

    "A proper bullet and load, such as the 60 gr Nosler Partition, lets the 223 take deer to any range at which the sks can readily do so, count on that."

    You must be from the east. Try that with a 180lb western muley and you will be standing there wondering why he ran off so fast and far.

    Most of us try for one shot knock-down. That is why I hunt w/ a 300WM if in the open and a 170gr 30-30 in the brush. But, all of this is for a differrent topic.

    If I had to choose between a AR or an SKS for a "do it all, you can only only have one rifle" situation, it would be an SKS hands down.
  16. rbernie

    rbernie Well-Known Member

    user2 - in this thread you have described experiences with:

    1) killing deer with 22LR head shots at 50 yards
    2) taking down game animals with an alloy Combat Commander from 10-150 yards
    3) engaging and neutralizing men at 400+ yards
    4) dropping deer out at 150 yards with .223 60gr Nosler Partitions

    Somebody's trolling, and I'm tired of biting.

  17. fletcher

    fletcher Well-Known Member

    The indoor range I go to accepts it no problem.
  18. Okiecruffler

    Okiecruffler Well-Known Member


    No offense man, but you just made one of the goofiest arguements I've ever read. If Hi Points cost $1200, and Kimbers cost $120, would anyone own a Hi Point?:D

    Now most of my deer hunting has been in Oklahoma, in the brush. I've never used the SKS for this, but I've handed enough of them to know they'd make a dandy Whitetail gun within their range limits, especially with a good fitting , light after market stock. I also know, from way too much experience with the .243, that the .223 is not an adaquate brush round for deer. The only thing I've ever shot with SKS was coyote and skunk and even on a 200yrd coyote it performed just fine. Sure their are better rifles out there for 'yotes, the AR is one of them. But the AR isn't as good for the task as say a nice bolt action .220 is.

    For an "all-around, kill everything from mice to deer, throw in the back of the pick-up, and maybe get yourself out of a bad situation" rifle, you could do alot worse than an SKS.
  19. ID_shooting

    ID_shooting Well-Known Member

    Good luck Okie,

    The aruments were so far fetched I just quit trying.

    Almost like debating with John Kerry.
  20. Okiecruffler

    Okiecruffler Well-Known Member

    It appears he is gone.

    Perhaps he was just a figment of our imagination.

    Still, I miss my old SKS. Might have to replace it soon.

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