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Smith and Wesson 22A?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by bhk, Nov 22, 2010.

  1. bhk

    bhk Well-Known Member

    A local dealer is selling these, on sale, for less than $200. Anyone have any experiences, good or bad, with them? I have had Rugers and a Smith 41, but have no experience with this model. I think my son, in his 20s, needs a good .22 auto for Christmas and I am in the hunt.
  2. REAPER4206969

    REAPER4206969 Well-Known Member

    I have ~21,000rds. through mine with no problems other than common rimfire stoppages. Excellent pistol with a no BS warranty.

    ABTOMAT Well-Known Member

    They're not terrible high quality (frame is zinc or something) but they're reliable and generally well-liked. The plastic buffer needs frequent replacement.
  4. MrWesson

    MrWesson Well-Known Member

    I like mine just fine and its very accurate. Its the best .22 pistol you will find for 200 new thats for sure(next best Beretta neos around 250). I should also mention that I couldnt find the plastic buffer anywhere after a call to S&W it turns out they are free and they will send you them.

    Some Cons
    A lack of aftermarket parts and support compared to the ruger and buckmark.

    Awkward mag release on the front of the grip but it does a nice job of staying out of the way.

    I dont care for is how hard it is to cock the slide(Gf couldnt do it). Its just hard to get a good grip so I put skateboard tape on it and its a dream now.

    That being said I want a buckmark because I just like the ergonomics of it and its a lighter pistol of course all that comes at a price nearly double the S22a.
  5. sansone

    sansone Well-Known Member

    GREAT guns.. no feed issues, robust manufacture, accurate, easy to field strip. I believe the frame is aluminum not zinc. Zinc is very heavy and when you take the slide off, the frame is very light.. Heck, we have no problem buying plastic guns do we?
  6. wally

    wally Well-Known Member

    Its my favorite .22 pistol despite it getting ready to go back to S&W for the third time. At least S&W pays the shipping both ways. First time was an early production run defect, these last two have been for broken firing pins :(

    I don't dry fire it, but do run about 1000 rounds a month through it. Maybe they will just send me some replacement firing pins this time.

    Our Neos is at Beretta for their recall, been a bad month for our .22 pistols. My wife's Buckmark turned into stove pipe city a few weeks ago, but it was an easy fix -- the ejector wire somehow got bent and was not hitting the cases, bent it back and no failures in 400 rounds the last two times out.

    Our Rugers get a lot of use too but they are way less reliable than the M22, Neos or Buckmark. Its not that the Rugers are bad, its just the M22, Neos and Buckmark are about as reliable as a .22 pistol can be. But they all have their quirks.

    I don't see this as a negative at all, same can be said for the Neos and Buckmark too, good guns don't need a lot of doodads added to them.
  7. sansone

    sansone Well-Known Member

    ever notice how similar the sw22a is to the Beretta "Neos"? :rolleyes:
  8. stchman

    stchman Well-Known Member

    I have one and it really shoots well. It has been 100% so far (probably put about 500 rounds through it).

    < $200 is a good price.

    FYI, the frame is aluminum.
  9. Holo

    Holo Well-Known Member

    Bud's shipped mine this afternoon :) I'll let you know in a few days!!!
  10. sansone

    sansone Well-Known Member

    holo you are gonna LUV it
  11. BluesDancer

    BluesDancer Well-Known Member

    ...and the nice thing is, it will generally run most easy-to-find ammo as long as the insides are not very dirty. I have run CCI Mini-Mags, Federal Auto Match, and Federal Bulk Pack through my 22A with no problems. Winchester Bulk Pack had a few problems for me, but I pegged those to the ammo, not the gun. Have fun!
  12. Holo

    Holo Well-Known Member

    I have noticed the same thing about winchester bulk ammo in .22. The bullet can freely spin and wobble in the brass. Never had the problem with federal or remington bulk. Winchester must have a more lax QA department.
  13. Holo

    Holo Well-Known Member



    sorry for the poor quality. camera on phone is no good.

    Put about 200 rounds down range today when i picked it up from the gunshop. No cleaning, no oiling (seemed very well oiled when i got it) and i had 2 FTF's both on the second round of a fresh clip. Put a few more down range and it didn't do it again. And this is with winchester bulk ammo. Shooting at 10 yards from a rest i could cover the group with a quarter. The red dot makes this thing a fun machine. Best $230 I've spent this year.
  14. wally

    wally Well-Known Member

    Failure to Feed or Failure to Fire?

    If failure to feed and you got a click on an empty chamber, this is one of its quirks.

    Mine did this with HP ammo, so I shot only solids for the first year or so. Eventually I suspect the mags or the mag catch wore down enough so the HP didn't hang on it and I've not had the issue again in probably 10,000 rounds of Federal bulk pack.

    What happens is on the second round the HP hangs on the mag catch (or notch) and prevents spring pressure from moving the top round up. Only the second shot out of a full mag (or third of a 10+1 load) lets things line up for this to happen. Next time it happens if you carefully remove the mag after the click you can see there is no pressure on the rounds above the mag catch cut out.

    I've read other reports of this and it seems to go away after some use.

    S&W has a new firing pin in the mail to me today -- great customer service!
  15. Holo

    Holo Well-Known Member

    FTFire for me. Only thing i can think of is lack of oil because the firing pin hit the rim of the shell, dented it but the shell didn't fire. So its either in need of some more oil or the shell was just a dud. The fact that it happened twice both on the second round is still strange though and I as well remember reading about that being a quirk of this model. Didnt happen again after a few more mags full. Just need to break her down and toss some remoil on all the pieces and i bet shes happy as a clam.
  16. wally

    wally Well-Known Member

    You can expect a few of these in every bulk pack. Usually they go if you try again and the firing pin hits a different part of the rim.
  17. REJones

    REJones Well-Known Member

    I love mine. Liked the feel a lot more than a Ruger Mark III. Field stripping the 22A is super easy, too!
  18. Holo

    Holo Well-Known Member

    yeah breakdown is cake. Also i like that the grip angle and slide release are very similar to the 1911.
  19. sxcamaro05

    sxcamaro05 Well-Known Member

    I have the camo version and it is great fun for plinking. I've only had a handful of FTFeed problems with cheap cheap bulk ammo. I now use mainly Federal coppers and have had zero problems. My favorite part about the gun is the one button click to release the barrel. Breeze to clean, nice all around.
  20. lucky-gunner

    lucky-gunner Well-Known Member

    S&w 22a

    I've had one for almost 4 years. I picked a mine up used for a song and a dance. So I thought it would just be a place setter until I could get something nicer. It's been 100% as long as I use decent .22 LR. I've found mine doesn't like the Winchester .22 of any kind. Eats up everything else though. It's preformed so well that I haven't bothered to pick up a Ruger or Browning.

    I have one of the short barrel versions and it's actually a great piece for training. The size is almost a match to a full size/compact centerfire pistol. For the money they are hard to beat.

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