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solved ALL my 1911 problems (i think) (maybe ?)

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by HD, Oct 2, 2005.

  1. HD

    HD member

    after working with the calipers til my eyes are getting blurry , getting a bigger pile of reject parts with every measurement made , and just plain losing faith in the people at geneso , i found a solution to ALL my 1911 woes ...
    i ordered a sig 245 2 tone ... :neener: :what: :eek: :evil:
  2. Pietro Beretta

    Pietro Beretta Well-Known Member

  3. grendelbane

    grendelbane Well-Known Member

    I have a P245. It is reliable, and more than accurate enough for its intended purpose.

    I am thinking of trading it for a Commander, because it has little soul.

    A hard concept to explain, but nevertheless, that is the way I feel.

    Next week I may feel differently.
  4. 1911Tuner

    1911Tuner Moderator Emeritus


    Take heart Henry...maybe you'll run up on a Rand or a GI Colt at that show. :cool:
  5. HD

    HD member

    its reached the point where i've lost intrest in 1911's...

    this is after 35 years of owning , shooting , reloading for , and working on , 1911's...(80+ 1911's)
    its just not fun or interesting any longer , i'm tired...
    i know the WW2 will shoot , i stilll have it's first target shot with HB , the 1st round went right on the 'X' , the rest followed ...
    but the effort to try to get this thing to work right is souring me on 1911's as a serious gun ...
    i am debating getting a kimber 22 conversion and just having it as a plinker ....
    ( i can just hear the screams of 'blasphemy ! and heritic !)
    i ordered the SIG so i can have 45 thats as idiotproof as i can reasonably get for my $$$...
    i have never had a sig break or fail to work from right out of the box , same for CZ...
    (yes , i know the problems one dept is supposedly having with some 220's)

    johnny , i greatly appreciate your help in all this ... thanks again ...HD
  6. Kruzr

    Kruzr Well-Known Member

    While I've lost faith in the management in Genesco, the assembly and manufacturing people you've lost faith in are in Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro.
  7. Old Fuff

    Old Fuff Well-Known Member

    >> ...the assembly and manufacturing people you've lost faith in are in Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro. <<

    So far as I know, all they make is the frames and slides, and generally speaking they, in and of themselves don't cause any problems. The quality issues seem to be limited to lockwork and magazines - that and "anything goes" when it comes to final assembly and inspection - if there is any. Suposedly final assembly is done here in the U.S. of A.
  8. HD

    HD member

    johnny , the parts showed up today ... THANKS

    the 10/1000 oversize FPSP slid right in ... the extractor works now ...
    hell ,a .480 plate probably would havebeen a force fit... (scary huh?)
    other parts slipped right in ...
    a few more parts and it will be finished , will send you the replaced parts , maybe they'll work in something of yours ...
  9. Old Fuff

    Old Fuff Well-Known Member

    How the heck did you get that extractor and FPSP into a SIG 245 ...?? I think at last you've put Tuner to shame ... :neener: :D
  10. HD

    HD member

    ya know , in 35 yrs of gun plumbing i've never had to repair or return a sig or cz...

    packed the 1911s in their boxes and locked them in the safe , no more , i've had my fill of the nonsense ...
    it took 35 yrs , but i'm cured of 1911s...
    sending all the extras to tuner for his partsdrawer , enough was finally just too much...
    if the 245 or a 220 won't do the job , i gotta ask myself why ...
  11. Old Fuff

    Old Fuff Well-Known Member

    Well that's the whole trouble ... Ya' started way too late. :uhoh:

    By the time you came along all of the good stuff that worked had been made. Back in the 40's and before, JMB's big pistol was made the way it was supposed to be. Everything was "real steel" back then, all properly heat-treated and tempered. Why parts even matched the blueprints!!! :what:

    The people who put 'um together were experienced and knew what they were doing - and did it right. And in case they slipped some floor inspector would catch them at it. If ya' ever get a chance to look over an *old* Colt or USGI gun you'll find little numbers and letters stamped all over it. Those are marks the inspectors' left to show they were doing their job. The stuff you've been trying to fix is devoid of such marks, because there isn't anyone to make them ... :uhoh:

    But anyway, the SIG's aren't bad guns I suppose. Seems that a lot of folks like 'um a lot. CZ doesn't do badly either, and the prices are very reasonable. :)

    So have fun with your new toys, and see if they are your cup of tea (or turbocoffee as the case may be). I wish you luck.

    But I aint changing ... :evil:
  12. JMag

    JMag Well-Known Member

    You'll love your 245...guaranteed. ;)
  13. grendelbane

    grendelbane Well-Known Member

    If all of my Gov't model and clones thereof were to disappear, I could get by quite readily with a couple of SIGs. However, it would not be a P245 and a P220.

    No, my picks would be the P229 and P239. Yes, without a Gov't model, I would abandon the .45 ACP! :evil:

    Seriously, I and my friends have gone through several SIGs, and I don't recall any problems. Also, no modifications were required, or performed. (Except maybe for grips.)

    Still, there is some thing very sweet about a Gov't model. :)
  14. 1911Tuner

    1911Tuner Moderator Emeritus

    Sick and Tired

    Talked to HD on the land line about 2 hours ago. I had him try somethin' else to address his extractor problems. Told him that if it didn't cooperate, to send me the top-end so I can have another crack at fixin' half a gun... :p

    I think he's gonna be able to fix it though... :cool:
  15. HD

    HD member

    i've had 12-15 sigs since the 70's ...

    the worst of them was still better than the best amuricacan guns of recent vintage...
    have had 3 cz's so far and everyone has been excellant...
    every damm'd one of the last 13-15 1911's has needed at least some work nib to make them function right...
    no more , i bet old john is crying hard tears over what they've done to his creation ...
  16. Old Fuff

    Old Fuff Well-Known Member

    >> ... i bet old john is crying hard tears over what they've done to his creation ... <<<

    And you'd better believe that we'd join him ... :mad:

    DAVE RICHARDS Well-Known Member

    My 245 was my first Sig. Stupid accurate, very easy to conceal, and over 10,000 trouble free rounds. Just had to replace my recoil spring around the 10,000 round mark. Enjoy shooting it instead of waiting for a 1911 to come back from the shop and hope it's fixed.!
  18. HD

    HD member

    i bloody well intend to ...

    no more 1911s , not unless its a toolroom model assembled by JMB hisself ... :neener:
  19. Tom Servo

    Tom Servo Well-Known Member

    I've got a P245 on my hip right now. Wonderful carry gun, basically Sig's answer to the CCO. I wanted a "chopped" version of my P220, which is what the P245 is. Ironically, it seems to kick just a tad less than the full-size, and in my hands it's just as accurate out to about 50'.

    Reliability...well, it's never malfunctioned, even with ammo that wouldn't shoot out of other folks' guns. I'd be REALLY surprised if it did, and I trust it inherently.

    I'm fortunate to have two 1911s that are trustworthy: a S&W that required one trip back to fix a grip-safety problem (great customer service, btw) and (wait for it...) a Kimber CDP Compact, which has been utterly reliable out of the box. One stovepipe at 80 rounds, and nothing in the ~1200 since.

    I'd be happy carrying either. Still, for some reason, I'm just a bit more comfortable with a Sig. I will warn you, however...once you've got the P245, you'll NEED a P220. Then a P228 because it's a great wondernine. Then you'll need a P226 'cause .357SIG is such a cool caliber. Then, a P230 for those discreet situations. It's a sickness. Yes it is... :p
  20. Stinkyshoe

    Stinkyshoe Well-Known Member

    I solved my 1911 woes...I gotta a glock :neener: :eek: :scrutiny: :D

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