Springfield XDs Recall

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Last I read, there were about a quarter million handguns in the recall. Given several e-mails per owner (not to mention phone calls), it's likely that a half million or better e-mails have been submitted to SA. While annoying to be sure, having some slip through without getting an answer is certainly possible. Too bad you couldn't have used the RMA when it was originally issued.
 
So I am really at odds about this recall. I did not send my wifes in right away because I wanted to see the fix for the problem I never had. The website says they had to "modify" an XDS to repeat the original complaint so does that mean it is only a problem if the pistol is tampered with? I have not heard of anyone having an issue pre recall. I am not sending it in if it is stupidity on the original complaintant that led to the pistol going full auto.
 
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So I am really at odds about this recall. I did not send my wifes in right away because I wanted to see the fix for the problem I never had. The website says they had to "modify" an XDS to repeat the original complaint so does that mean it is only a problem if the pistol is tampered with? I have not heard of anyone having an issue pre recall. I am not sending it in if it is stupidity on the original complaintant that led to the pistol going full auto.
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The problem with the original design is if you pull the trigger and then do not have the grip safety depressed as the slide cycles, the trigger (and therefore safeties) do not reset. This creates the potential for a slam fire and /or double fire. The recall eliminates this potential. Try it with your non-upgraded XDs, UNLOADED of course, you will see that if you pull the trigger and then manually rack the slide without depressing the grip safety, the trigger does not reset.

Go back to Post No. 137 of this thread where I provided a video link that describes this design flaw.
 
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When I bought my XDS 45, one of the first things I did was strip it down and polish everything that touches, rubs, or moves. That made the trigger as sweet as sugar (or many sugar substitutes) so I am reluctant to send it back for now.

You have to be an idiot and really try to rack the slide or shoot the gun without depressing the grip safety. It is near impossible to do. I don't think the problem is a huge as many make it up to be and yes, Springfield did state they had to modify a gun to make it double tap.
 
I agree, and was hesitant to send mine in, I figured with all of those guns, and no incidents, what was the likelihood of mine, "which ran perfect", having an issue. But then I did it just in case I ever decide to sell or trade it on something else. Now I just have to shoot it, Nice new case, and mag. Great company to do business with, you have to hand it to them.
Mine feels even better than before.
 
Thanks I guess maybe I misunderstood the original issue. So I watched the video and cannot understand why you would ever do what is shown there? Why would you not have the grip safety depressed when racking the slide?
 
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mnhntr said:
Thanks I guess maybe I misunderstood the original issue. So I watched the video and cannot understand why you would ever do what is shown there? Why would you not have the grip safety depressed when racking the slide?
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You would not do what is shown intentionally. That is why the double-fire/slam-fire occurrences are extremely rare. Perhaps recoil caused the shooter(s) to let off the grip safety as the gun was cycling. Or perhaps somebody was chambering a round with the gun held in a non-conventional manner. Either way, it was still an oversight by the designers to allow this to happen even under abnormal circumstances, hence the recall.
 
I finally sent mine in this weekend. Anyone know what the current turn around time is?
 
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FWIW, I disregard any reference to someone experiencing light strikes with their returned, "upgraded" XDs unless they specifically state that they properly cleaned & lubed the piece after receiving it and before firing it ... and this Clean & Lube included cleaning out the firing pin channel.

Springfield is, apparently, re-gooping these pistols prior to returning them.
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Yep, found a ton of goop and what was seemingly polymer particles all through the pistol. I cleaned and lubricated but still have light strikes and feed problems. This pistol had 0 issues before I sent it back for the recall... I wonder what the hell they did to it.
 
Odd since mine came back bone dry. Haven't shot mine yet but hopefully it works. Wasn't too happy with the whole thing as it is..
 
Finally got around to putting 50 rounds through it today. It actually feels smoother than before. The reset is a little longer but the creep is gone. I put all in the head at 25 yards, that is good enough for me with a carry gun. I ran it from 25-75 feet, and it was about the same as far as accuracy, "though I haven't fired it In 6 months. It is about as accurate as my 9mm Kahr.
 
Since gym's post brought this BTT, I will add my update:

Since the turnaround appeared to be approaching ~2 weeks, I sent my XDs45 back early last month.

When it was returned I found that the sweet trigger-action that I liked so much was gone. 8-10 dryfires (on a snapcap) made my knuckle ache.

That is the extent of the Bad News.

At about the time that I sent it back I ordered a PRP Spring Kit. Replacing the springs allowed me to become very familiar with the inner workings of my pistol. While I had it apart, I used it as an opportunity to dremel-polish key surfaces.

I eezoxed all of the metal and heat-applied Militec to the rails and a couple other area.

The trigger-action is now very smooth and light. Once I get a chance to put some rounds thru it, I will determine whether to use the PRP Striker Spring or re-install the OEM spring.
 
If you would be kind enough to let me know how the gun fired with the new Kit, I would appreciate it. That little gun is one of the most reliable small guns I have seen in 45. Anything that made it even better would be a no brainer, so please PM or post your results with the actual shooting of the gun.
Unfortunately the two times I tried these type of kits, the caused other reliability problems for the gun, one with an LC9, and the other with an AMT 45 backup.
Thanks.
 
Saw turnaround times getting short, and had a chance to hit the FedEx shipping center.

Under two weeks to get both .45acp & 9x19mm XD(S) back, they shipped there and back together, boxed up and in a junky pistol case I had lying around.
I of course got the extended mag as an apology with each, along with a "we're sorry" note and an invoice that made no sense. (but who cares, I got my stuff back)

Triggers are a bit heavier than original, but not drastically so. It isn't a target gun, it has an acceptable (but not particularly nice) SD trigger. It may improve with shooting and a good deep cleaning. If anyone has a good aftermarket kit that makes the trigger nicer, I might be interested, but it isn't a crisis until the Mrs complains or wants an upgrade.

Both function reliably. The 9mm was a hit at my club's free "Ladies' night" defensive class a couple weeks ago. (although my 6" match longslide 1911 from Armscor was a bigger hit)
I've had both to the range a couple times since they returned, it's time to clean them, I suppose. I keep forgetting to take the extended mags to the range, too.
 
Definitely test your extended mags... I have 3 that are just about worthless in my 45 while the standard mags work fine. Also, I installed the PRP spring kit and it made a world of difference.
 
Before putting the PRP spring kit in mine, the trigger pull was un-measurable with a Lyman digital gauge... meaning it was over 12 lbs.

After putting the PRP spring kit in and doing a bit of polishing, the measured pull is 5 lbs. 3 oz. and it is smooth and predictable.
 
RainDodger said:
Before putting the PRP spring kit in mine, the trigger pull was un-measurable with a Lyman digital gauge... meaning it was over 12 lbs.

After putting the PRP spring kit in and doing a bit of polishing, the measured pull is 5 lbs. 3 oz. and it is smooth and predictable.
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Are there options in between those extremes? I don't want a >12# trigger, but I may like one in the 6# to 8# range.

IOW, my pistol's trigger pull weight, currently unknown because I don't have the tool to measure it, is OK as far as pull goes, but I might like to see it smoother and maybe a tiny bit lighter.
 
Mainsail said:
Are there options in between those extremes? I don't want a >12# trigger, but I may like one in the 6# to 8# range.

IOW, my pistol's trigger pull weight, currently unknown because I don't have the tool to measure it, is OK as far as pull goes, but I might like to see it smoother and maybe a tiny bit lighter.
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The in spec trigger pull weight for the XDs is in the range of 5.5-7.7 lbs. If yours is heavier, send it back to SA and they will fix it.
 
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