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stamped AK'S Fall apart after afew thousand rounds

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by lobo9er, Jul 11, 2009.

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  1. lobo9er

    lobo9er Well-Known Member

    i own a poly tech milled AK preban underfolder i love it! such a versitile little rifle easy to pack easy to maintain i was thinking buying a cheaper stamped AK deal but have heard their not as durable and after a few thousand rounds rivets start to raddle or fall apart any truth to that? a friend of mine told me he had a couple ak's and got rid of them and wouldn't buy a stamped one again. anyone had similar things happen or hear of anyone with same problem?
  2. nalioth

    nalioth Well-Known Member

    [sarcasm]You are correct.

    Stamped AKs just disintegrate after a case of ammo.

    Just ask all those insurgents over in the middle east about this.

    Your friend is spreading gross falsehoods.
  3. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    It wouldn't be an AK if it didn't rattle!

  4. lobo9er

    lobo9er Well-Known Member

    i'm not poking at stamped ak's just asking you guys cuz i have never even shot another ak other than mine i really would like to buy one another ak would be nice but milled are just to much cant justify spending that kinda cash again
  5. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    I can't see it.

    The AK receiver is not really a stressed part.

    All it is, is a box to hold all the parts together in proper alignment.

    If it's riveted together properly to start with, it should stay that way for the life of the rifle.

    Which in the case of the AK, seems to be about forever.

  6. AK103K

    AK103K Well-Known Member

    I've got more than a few thousands through most of mine, and nary a wiggle.

    The Russians went to the stamped receivers very early on, and never went back. That should give you a clue.
  7. Gunfighter123

    Gunfighter123 Well-Known Member

    There are stamped AKs being used in Africa , South America , and the Middle East dateing from the 1950s ---- do a web search and show the results to your knowledgeable buddy.


    The list could go on and on and on.

    I have also owned both milled and stamped AKs ---- both types were shot with THOUSANDS of rounds and both types still worked 100%.

    To be truthfull ---- if YOU paid $1000/$1500 MORE then what I paid for a new AK , are YOU going to say " well, guess your right -- they both are about at the same performance level" ???
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  8. Gun Wielding Maniac

    Gun Wielding Maniac Well-Known Member

    Total BS.

    I've got thousands and thousands of rounds through mine.

    In A-stan and Iraq I saw hundreds of AK's that had been around since the 60's. They were so worn there wasnt a bit of paint or blue left on them and even the rifling was worn to near smoothness. But the rivets sure as hell weren't rattling.:rolleyes:
  9. Gun Slinger

    Gun Slinger member

    Stamped AKs fall apart after a few thousand rounds?

    ha ha ha...Oh, that's rich!

    Let me guess, did this conversation occur in a gunshop, too? :D

    I own seven milled AKs and have owned one stamped AK (sold it to a friend years ago who was just begging me to let him have it) and if the opportunity arose, I wouldn't hesistate a moment to acquire another stamped AK. Prices are just way too stoopid high right now.

    I suspect that your buddy is either ignorant or just messing with you. ;)

    In short, stamped receiver AKs are quite durable and will not fall apart with the amount of ammuntion that one could reasonably purchase these days.
  10. benEzra

    benEzra Moderator Emeritus

    Consider that Russian military AK's, as well as RPK machineguns, use stamped, riveted receivers, and withstand more abuse than non-automatic civilian AK's ever will.
  11. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    You should know that the Soviets adopted the AKM (that's the official designation of the "stamped" version) to replace the original AK-47 in 1959.

    Since then, many millions of AKMs have been built by many countries, as well as the newer AK-74 (5.45x39mm) rifles and the RPK machine guns, and even a few of the "designated rifleman" rifles like the Romanian Romak FPK or Yugoslavian Zastava M76 (though not the actual SVD Dragunov) have been based on the AKM receiver model. Meaning they're all "stamped."

    Obviously, the design worked very well, and in fact, pretty much has set the standard for durability and reliability the world over.

    So, your pal is full of crap. (Or, politely put, he's just repeating silly "old gunnie's tales" and should be more careful what he allows himself to believe.)

  12. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    There could possibly be a grain of truth to it.
    If you consider all the AK's put together on someones kitchen table out of a stamped receiver flat.

    Some of those cobbled up rivet jobs probably do rattle & fall apart.

  13. AK103K

    AK103K Well-Known Member

    From that standpoint, yes.

    The guns I've had the most troubles with have been the "kit" guns, and not just AK's either. Everyone is a gunsmith these days.:rolleyes:
  14. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

    I highly doubt it. The Russians are known for tough guns that poorly trained conscripts can operate.
  15. deALPHAmale

    deALPHAmale Well-Known Member

    Romanian WASR-10 has yet to fail me, it's not high quality like a Saiga, but I enjoy it just fine.
  16. JHansenAK47

    JHansenAK47 Well-Known Member

    Sounds like they haven't owned very many AKs. Besides if they did start rattling that would more likely be a manufacturing defect more than likely caused by improper installation than a defective rivet.
  17. lobo9er

    lobo9er Well-Known Member

    hes a pretty honest dude he may bought a lemon that didnt last and then bought another sub par and just got sick of it sold it off any down sides to the stamped? or is stamped just that much cheaper to make. i do doubt that "insurgents" how ever have the same type of regard for there weapons i'm sure they go boom but i doubt those wore out aks from the 50's are all that great doesnt take much to hit man size target
  18. possum

    possum Well-Known Member

    not true at all. many of the ak's that go through training courses are of the stamped variety and i have never seen or heard of one doing as your friend states. they have way more than a few k through em.
  19. tju1973

    tju1973 Well-Known Member

    My WASR has had severel thousand through it-- and it still chunks lead out just fine...

    and mine is a "cheap AK knockoff.."

  20. 2RCO

    2RCO Well-Known Member

    Pretty shure you'll wear out before your stamped AK does or at least be broke from feeding it.
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