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Standard load for a WWII infantryman?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Johnpl, Oct 31, 2003.

  1. Johnpl

    Johnpl Well-Known Member

    Hefting a couple of full bandoliers of Garand clips filled with 48 rounds of 30-06 got me thinking...these darn things are heavy! How many clips/rounds did an M-1 equipped rifleman normally carry during WWII?
  2. Steve in PA

    Steve in PA Well-Known Member

    The cartridge belts held 10 or 12 clips??? Plus some GI's would carry a bandolier......or two!! WWII was not the spray and pray war that Viet Nam was.
  3. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

    Basic load of the infantryman since the time of Roman Legionnaire has been 50 plus pounds (try 70 for the Miles Septimus). You know, the stuff gets lighter, stronger and better but that just means ole dog face carries more equipment.
  4. Bartholomew Roberts

    Bartholomew Roberts Moderator Emeritus

    80 rounds was the basic load for the M1 Garand - though like today's basic load, soldiers often carried more than that.
  5. Aikibiker

    Aikibiker Well-Known Member

    I think that really depends on two things.

    1. The supply situation.

    2. How much the soldier in question can carry and still walk.
  6. WT

    WT Well-Known Member

    The Infantryman's Combat Load for the Normandy Invasion varied between 60-90 lb. Some carried over 100 lb. As a minimum, according to the TOE, each rifleman carried the following:

    M1 Garand and 96 rounds
    Life preserver
    Gas mask
    5 grenades
    1/2 lb TNT
    6 rations
    2 canteens
    first aid kit
    4 60mm mortar rounds or 2 anti-tank mines
    treated chemical clothing for gas attacks
    web gear or assault jackets
    helmet and liner
    spare boots, socks
    rain gear
    sleeping gear
    shelter half
    personal items

    Then there were the soldiers who carried bazookas, flame throwers, mortars, automatic rifles, machine guns, bangalores, wire cutters, TNT satchels, radios, etc.

    During the British Invasion of the Falklands, each soldier carried 120 lb.

    During the Grenada Invasion, American Ranger paratroopers carried 167 lb.

    Infantrymen carry too much stuff!
  7. Mike Irwin

    Mike Irwin Well-Known Member

    IIRC, the standard Doughboy load during WW I was close to 70 pounds...
  8. Number 6

    Number 6 Well-Known Member

  9. Matthew Temkin

    Matthew Temkin Well-Known Member

    My dad told me that 10-12 clips ( 80-96 rounds) was standard for a combat patrol.
    An excellent book about the avj Joe in WW2 is, THE DEADLY BROTHERHOOD.
  10. BluesBear

    BluesBear member

    The WWII GI cartridge belt has 10 pockets for a total of 80 rounds. But the real beauty of the M1 Garand en bloc clip was, that being a staggered feed device, that you could clip them almost anywhere and they'd be easy to grab.

    I have seen photos of GIs with clips on pack straps, slings, field jacket pockets even bootlaces around the neck carrying 3 or 4.

    My dad used to tell me that the guys with the Garands were better off than he was with his little M1 Carbine since they didn't have to worry about keeping track of their mags. But then again he said he never saw anyone with "Carbine Thumb".

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