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Stupid Saiga question of the week!

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Col. Plink, Nov 17, 2009.

  1. Col. Plink

    Col. Plink Well-Known Member

    SO, got my first SaigaScrewUp out of the way this week! WOOHOO! Bought a scope mount that has no way to attach itself to the siderail on the Saiga308.

    Ordered from MidwayUSA, which has scant few items of any description listed for Saigas, so I don't know WHAT KIND OF SIDERAIL SCOPE MOUNT DO I NEED FOR A SAIGA 308? I thought the stuff labeled for AK's would work, not so! I thought I had read that the siderail mounted on the AK's (Saiga's in this case) as they come from Izmash were universal and that Saiga's take the same scope mounts, but what do I know?

    So if anyone can tell me what side-mount scope rails I need for a Saiga308 (especially available at Midway) I need I would be in your debt. Thanks!
  2. malix

    malix Well-Known Member

    Yes, that is correct, it has the standard AK siderail. There is also an SVD type of side mount which will not work with a Saiga. What exactly did you get?
  3. Col. Plink

    Col. Plink Well-Known Member

    I got what they call a '3rd generation' Leapers mount
  4. malix

    malix Well-Known Member

  5. rangerruck

    rangerruck Well-Known Member

  6. Col. Plink

    Col. Plink Well-Known Member

    That's the one, malix, but I cannot tell how it is supposed to attach. It slides on, but the hex screws pass through the mount ABOVE the rail itself. For the life of me I can't figure out how it's supposed to get any purchase to stay on.

    The mount I have has no 'levers', just three screws that are actually recessed into the mount above where the rail on the receiver is. Unless maybe the screws are supposed to be tightened so tight that it squeezes the entire mount onto the rail (I doubt three hex screws are capable of compressing that much metal), I cannot fathom how this setup is supposed to work on a rail that it merely slides over. It looks as though something would have to be sticking out higher than the rail itself for these screws to get any purchase.

    For what it's worth the '5th generation Leapers' on Midway has customer reviews for Saiga 223 and 762x39 owners... (no Saiga owner reviews fir the 3rd Gen in question)
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2009
  7. malix

    malix Well-Known Member

    Thats what i was thinking. The mounts for my Kobra & POSP use the lever attached to a screw in order to clamp on to the rail that way.

  8. Col. Plink

    Col. Plink Well-Known Member

    There is no lever.

    Only three screws, I can't see how they could possibly be intended to bend and compress the metal onto the rail.

    Has anyone out there actually used one of these?
  9. malix

    malix Well-Known Member

    Right, but what i mean is that the lever is attached to just 1 large screw which tightens down the mount so that it clamps on to the rail.

    I dont see why 3 screws wouldnt be enough to hold it... have you tried it yet?
  10. Col. Plink

    Col. Plink Well-Known Member

    Not as such, the screws are small enough that it looks like they would certainly strip before bending the mount to the rail. Not counting it out, though, just not too keen to try something that might damage it too far to return.

    Question: does the one you're talking about actually engage a moving part (like the way most mounts are screw down directly), or does it apply enough pressure via this leveraged screw to actually shape the mount as a clamp on the rail? (sounds like that's the case) Just trying to envision how much force we're talking about here.
  11. hunter25

    hunter25 Well-Known Member

    The mount is aluminum and bends quite easily. I have one on a .223 and thought I broke it because it bent so much. It does seem to hold quite well though.
  12. malix

    malix Well-Known Member

    You are correct, there is no moving part. The screw applies enough pressure to clamp on to the rail.
  13. Col. Plink

    Col. Plink Well-Known Member

    Got it! Clamped it down, took it to the range, sighted-in with great success!

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