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Summary of Feinstein's Proposed New Gun Control Law

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Justin, Dec 27, 2012.

  1. Xyr

    Xyr New Member

    Dec 22, 2012
    I know in NY Cuomo is talking mandatory buy-backs. Which as we all know is just mandatory confiscation. So no grandfathering here. Even if the National AWB fails expect Station level legislation. Unfortunately as a NYer I feel I'm screwed.
  2. GiorgioG

    GiorgioG New Member

    Jan 9, 2011
    Raleigh, NC
    Don't feel screwed...just move (like I'll be doing as soon as we sell the house.) Let's face it, NY (outside of NYC) is dying economically and our politicians are useless.
  3. armoredman

    armoredman Elder

    Nov 19, 2003
    proud to be in AZ
    Come to Arizona, a great Constitutional Carry state. We might get our Legislature to vote to "realID" this bill, too.
  4. Dean1818

    Dean1818 Active Member

    Jun 26, 2010
    You are correct...... Speaking with former gun owners in the UK, the clear strategy was division........ First one type... Than another.......

    We need to hang together.... If you have a pea-shooter....... You need to support
  5. Tygarys

    Tygarys New Member

    Feb 16, 2011
    New Mexico
    And they are petitioning their gov to stop it because they don't want him either.
  6. unlimited4x4

    unlimited4x4 Member

    May 5, 2010
    Write your Reps

    Reading through this post there are some who believe that this will never pass. It may not but we cannot afford to be complacent. The NRA has a great link that lets you contact all your Representatives at once,

    This is the link:http://www.nraila.org/get-involved-locally/grassroots/write-your-reps.aspx

    I encourage all of you, whether you believe the Bill will pass or not, to make our voice heard. Encourage others too, we have everything to lose by not being vocal about our 2A rights.
  7. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Elder

    Jun 5, 2006
    In a part of Utah that resembles Tattooine.
    No one is saying we should be complacent.

    But half of this fight is propaganda. If they have half of US they have already won, they are that much closer.

    All of Utah's reps, including our lone democrat are solid.
  8. AlexanderA

    AlexanderA Senior Member

    Feb 27, 2011
    Nobody's read the legislative language yet, but I'd be very surprised if Feinstein's bill, as introduced, repealed the Hughes Amendment. But that doesn't mean that a repeal of Hughes couldn't be added later by someone from our side.

    Remember that the NFA includes several categories of items. The Hughes Amendment closed the registry for machine guns, but didn't affect destructive devices, suppressors, SBR's, etc. If semiautomatics are added to the NFA, they would be in their own (new) category.
  9. walt501

    walt501 New Member

    Jan 23, 2009
    We've had a Fast & Furious investigation that has been going on for years with no resolution. Then we have the Benghazi attack with yet another investigation that is going to drag on for months if not years.

    My point? Any new weapons or magazine bans will need to be carefully considered along with months and most likely years of expert testimony in order to write a law that will actually reduce the incidence of tragic shootings of innocents.

    Just playing the game the same way the other side plays it. That's all.
  10. sidheshooter

    sidheshooter Participating Member

    Dec 30, 2007
    Maybe I'm missing something, but it looks like the petition has been closed (and responded to in unsatifactory fashion)? I can't find a place to sign...
  11. PaisteMage

    PaisteMage New Member

    Nov 2, 2011
    Wrote both Senators.

    No offense but it doesn't matter WHAT weapons they want to to take or ban, it is the first step. Some people are fine with the fact that their guns aren't taken. It may be a comment on the topic, but we are all in this together.

    Patriot act, homegrown radicalization act of 2007, NDAA of 2012, etc...

    One thing leads to another.

    The right to keep and bear arms is for all arms.

    A defenseless society is easily controlled.
  12. browneu

    browneu Active Member

    Mar 26, 2004
    How will people know a gun is registered? That's if it becomes NFA.

    Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
  13. gym

    gym member

    Dec 9, 2007
    XYR, leave New York, "I did" and I owned 5 businesses there a home in the Hamptons and 2 apartments in Queens and LI, I was vested about as deep as you can be. It sucks to live there. "This to my NY friend, who was worried about confiscation", I never went back, not even for a visit, My family comes to visit me here, now, my mom is here also. I would not live in that cesspool for seven figures a year, "so please don't say you can't leave" yes you will take a pay cut unless you open a business", but it costs 30- 50% less to live here in FL, and it never gets below 50 for 3 or 4 days a year.Plus you have a gun friendlly enviornment.
    Next, nothing has been done yet, just because one senator released a draft of something she probablly sleeps with, does not mean that it will become law.
    Third and most important, they put this stuff out to scare you so that when they do pass a watered down version, everyone is relieved, and willinglly accepts it. Don't be intimidated, there are more people shooting now than ever before.
    Once they realize that this will have no effect on the criminals who commit these acts, and the mentally unbalanced who they are unable to house. There will be a backlash. These things are often overturned as unconstitutional.
    I think we stick together and wait to see what they actually announce, then we get the best attorneys money can buy, "there are more than enough of us", and get it thrown out on appeal, most casses like this get thrown out on appeal.
    It has to be unconstitutional.
  14. barnbwt

    barnbwt Mentor

    Aug 14, 2011
    Wow, the Official White House Position is that there are more anti's than gunnies, so therefore the gunnies' rights are forfeit. What else should we expect from a person directly elected by a simple majority (or nearly so)? Thank God our nation's designers were smart enough to not vest more responsibility to protect the citizen's rights with the Executive branch.

    Our Constitutional Scholar might be interested in this, though;
    *9th Amendment:The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
    -As I read it, one person's rights should not trump those of others, and the Constitutional Enumeration of rights should not be taken to describe the limits of the rights retained by the people (i.e. just because "semi-automatic guns weren't around back then" doesn't mean we don't have a right to bear them now)

  15. crossrhodes

    crossrhodes Active Member

    May 28, 2009
    Northeast Kingdom

    Her and Polosi need to take their government issued depends and retire
  16. KLL

    KLL New Member

    Dec 25, 2012
    I just wrote my officials in Florida. First time I ever have, and I let them know that. A few points I made were that I support stronger and more accessible mental health programs, that ANY legislation (any part of this potential bill or any other bill) further restricting what firearms & magazines law-abiding citizens can own or registration of firearms is absolutely unacceptable, and that failure to use their votes to prevent these things from happening will result in a loss of my vote.

    I only say this (with my first post, I believe) so others who may think, as I did at first, that others will speak up on my behalf, is not acceptable. We all have to speak up for ourselves to our elected officials, a few of us is not nearly as impactful as millions of us. I have only owned guns for a short time, but the thought of someone telling me I can no longer have some, and I have to let the government monitor the rest, is outrageous, and we should not stand for such an idea to even be entertained in the House or Senate.
  17. Skribs

    Skribs Mentor

    Oct 29, 2010
    Lakewood, Washington
    Went to sign the petition that HSO mentioned, and it's closed with a response from Obama which basically says "I respect the second ammendment but..." with the "but" being "I don't."
  18. gym

    gym member

    Dec 9, 2007
    Exactlly, you can't use money as leverage, if so the ammendmant would read, you have the right to bear arms if you can afford to pay the extreme costs that we will levy on you for doing so.
    This old lady has been saying the same thing over and over for so long now that it's an echo. The common man is supposed to be reflected in the Constitution, it's not supposed to favor those with more money than the other guy. That's why we split with England, "taxation without representation", that's how one revolution started, perhaps we can Paraphrase that and use it in this argument.
    If that's their plan, to tax the people who choose to exercise their Constitutional rights, then they too will fall. Justices no matter what their political views are, will usually rule on the side of law. They are funny that way.
    States can delare these laws unconstitutional also, and force the supreme court to hear it or just let each state have it's own interpretation of the law.
    The supreme court chooses which casses it will hear, if it chose not to hear this one, then the state would have the final say,"I believe". Just as they do now with shall and may issue, It's how they choose to interpret the law.
    Like Gambling or prostitution. some places it's allowed others it's not.
    Here is what I just found that kind of clarifies this stae vs federal thing,
  19. bobbo

    bobbo Member.

    Apr 11, 2010
    Upstate NY
    Hopefully, we can negotiate it to something less than this cluster. Good news for that plain-Jane Mini-14 I was looking at, though :).
  20. Hacker15E

    Hacker15E Participating Member

    Jul 1, 2005
    How about we negotiate this into a repeal of the GCA 68? Or a repeal of NFA 34? Or a nationwide CCW reciprocity agreement?

    I don't accept that ANYTHING proposed in Feinstein's bill be adopted, much less "negotiate it to something less". If we negotiate that it doesn't even come out of committee for a vote, that's a start.

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