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Summary of Select Firearm Violence Prevention Strategies

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Bobk538447, Feb 13, 2013.

  1. Bobk538447

    Bobk538447 Well-Known Member

  2. joeschmoe

    joeschmoe Well-Known Member

    This is the same government think tank that regularly puts out propaganda against marijuana because, they say, it causes impotency, brain damage, cancer and other things nobody else believes. They are one of the few who still claim it has no medical benefit, yet over a dozen states now have medical marijuana laws.
  3. Texan Scott

    Texan Scott Well-Known Member

    It's true, the NIJ has been known to put out weird stuff that frequently goes nowhere.

    The difference this time is that our President and Attorney General agree with them and are pushing their agenda.

    The significant thing is not that this tells us anything many of us didn't already suspect; it's that it confirms our suspicions in a single, concrete written statement of proposed policy.
  4. Art Eatman

    Art Eatman Administrator Staff Member

    From the document:

    "On average there are about 11,000 firearm homicides every year. While there are deaths resulting from accidental discharges and suicides, this document will focus on intentional firearm homicides. Fatalities from mass shootings (those with 4 or more victims in a particular place and time) account on average for 35 fatalities per year. Policies that address the larger firearm homicide issue will have a far greater impact even if they do not address the particular issues of mass shootings.

    This document provides a cursory summary of select initiatives to reduce firearm violence and an assessment of the evidence for the initiative."

    Note that the 11,000 is down by some 3,000 to 4,000 from the 1990s. That's in spite of the additional 190 million firearms purchases since 1993.
  5. Chevelle SS

    Chevelle SS Well-Known Member

    very interesting :scrutiny:
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2013
  6. blaisenguns

    blaisenguns Well-Known Member

    :fire::banghead::cuss:Is this thing really what the NRA puts out!!! Whose side are they on?! :cuss::banghead::fire:
  7. joeschmoe

    joeschmoe Well-Known Member

  8. blaisenguns

    blaisenguns Well-Known Member

    The first half they basically are telling the anti-gunners how to effectively make their proposals reduce gun violence.
  9. Texan Scott

    Texan Scott Well-Known Member

    Blaisenguns, this memo was written by a branch of Eric Holder's Justice Dept.

    (Oh, the sickening irony!)

    The NRA got hold of the memo and publicly outed them because you have a right to know the truth about your government's intentions.
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2013
  10. Alaska444

    Alaska444 member

    Dear Joe, please tell me how smoking "medical pot" is better than marinol created specifically by the DEA for any so called medicinal purposes.

    I will categorically state that I had the authority to prescribe "medical marijuana" in my medical practice, but there was not a single instance where I did not have far better choices.

    Sorry, but medical marijuana is a bunch of puffed up smoke. You are so wrong on this issue my friend.
  11. Texan Scott

    Texan Scott Well-Known Member

    Well, not to mention that the DOJ position on marijuana has nothing to DO with taking away my guns....
  12. blaisenguns

    blaisenguns Well-Known Member

    ooooo :confused::eek: I feel stupid :(
  13. Texan Scott

    Texan Scott Well-Known Member

    I've seen worse on THR.

    Once or twice...

    Tonight. ;)

    Probably been guilty of it on occasion, too. Have to ask my wife, though... she's the only one who remembers them all.
  14. Carl N. Brown

    Carl N. Brown Well-Known Member

    At least they are consistent: prohibited X or needed-to-be-prohibited Y is bad therefore continued or instituted prohibition is an unquestionable social good with no unintended consequences, and ignore CDC 2003 and NRC 2004: lack of proof of effectiveness of existing gun policy does not dampen our belief in effectiveness of more of the the same.
  15. gc70

    gc70 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the link. The memo provides a strong argument against most or all of the current proposals because they would be ineffective. The memo is clear that the only path to effectiveness is (1) registering all guns, (2) banning some guns and magazines, and (3) confiscating banned items.

    And they say gun owners are paranoid ...
  16. Justin

    Justin Moderator Staff Member

    Does anyone have a link to the original memo on the NIJ's website?

    When debating/discussing this issue with other people, it would be awesome to be able to send them a link to the memo on the NIJ website. Unfortunately, sending a link to the NRA will cause a lot of people to simply dismiss it out of hand.
  17. 316SS

    316SS Well-Known Member

    Somehow I don't think this was intended for public consumption, and is therefore not likely to be available via the NIJ public website. Neither do I expect they will confirm or deny its authenticity. They may be stupid, but they ain't dumb.
  18. gc70

    gc70 Well-Known Member

    I have read several articles reporting that DOJ acknowledged the memo, but claimed that it was only an internal analysis and not an expression of Administration policy.

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