Suppressor building materials question...

[CYANIDEGENOCIDE]

Any of the super alloys would be great for a can. They are on the spendy side but have fantastic mechanic properties. They can also be a real pain to machine unless you use an EDM. Waspalloy, any of the Hastelloy family would be awesome, the afore mentioned Inconel, Rene Alloys, Titanium, some grades of stainless are up to the task. Best bet would be to check out what the big boys use in their cans.

 

[Keith@Liberty]

After talking it over with David we decided that if we were going to rate something for a higher rate of fire than what our Mystic is we would have to choose 316 stainless. Mainly because its easier to machine than some of the "super alloys" and in the right design will provide plenty of strength to get the job done.

 

[Chopdoktor]

Thanks, Keith. I may go with that. I'd probably buy your company's "Mystic", if only it could withstand a bit heavier centerfire use. You guys are definitely on to something great, there, but if you could come out with one that can function boosted on a 9mm AND suppress medium to heavy semi-auto centerfire usage, you'd have one hell of a product.

 

[Keith@Liberty]

Well unless you're just dead set on doing a form 1, which is nice to be able to say you've done, give us a call or shoot me an email. Our Mystic is our production can but we do a lot of custom work. If you've got something specific in mind I'm more than likely sure David can make it a reality. We love working with our customers to produce a product that they are 100% satisfied with. I promise we'll do you right.

 

[Chopdoktor]

Excellent! I've heard only good things about Liberty. I'll pm you, thanks.

 

[rjrivero]

Kieth,

Good to see you on this forum. We have a Mystic on order from your shop, just waiting on a Form 3.

Looking forward to trying it out on the 300 AAC BLACKOUT with Cast Boolits, and my 9's, and my .22's and my.............

Tell Dave and Teresa I say "HI."

 

[Keith@Liberty]

RJ,
I believe yours may be finished up. If not its only a step or 2 away. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we fit yours up to a Trident 9 booster? Can't wait to hear your AAR, we know you'll love it!
Keith

 

[rjrivero]

You are absolutely correct. It has the Trident 9 booster included with the order, since I already have a bunch of adapters for it, we can do side by side type comparisons in our monthly shoots.

I'm hoping the Mystic will fill a nice niche for those who want "one can to fit most" applications.

Thanks for the heads up Keith. I'll be looking for the Email!

 

[rjrivero]

Kieth,

I got the Mystic in the shop today. Great looking suppressor!! Looks like the Trident Adapters were MADE for this thing. It's clean, and light and well made. Congrats on a fantastic product!!! We will be shooting the can on just about everything in the shop in the next few weeks. Range reports forth coming!!

rjrivero

 

[kingcheese]

i dont know exactly how heavy it would be, but maybe you could make the sleeve part that holds everything by milling out a piece of solid aluminum, and then having a steel insert heat pressed into it, that would basically give you something like what they use in most car engines, but a car engine is a lot less powerfull

i dont know anything about makeing a silencer, but in most aplications if you want light and tough you mix aluminum and steel

if you use one of thoose designs that stacks baffle on top of baffle, instead of one large core, you should be able to decreas the preasure in the silencer, by adding more ports and larger ports to each of the baffles and get low enough presure to use aluminum for that

i also have never heard of anyone adding a port that allows the gas to bleed out into the air straight off the baffles( like porting through that sleeve part) i dont know how much it would affect performance, but it should effectivly allow the silencer to depresurise in between shots

hope this helps, if not, sorry i wasted your time

 

[Zak Smith]

Just a few comments-

On the tube and construction, think about why there is a tube.

Ports to the atmosphere through the tube will drastically reduce the effectiveness of the suppressor. Pressure in the suppressor drops to near atmospheric levels within fractions of a second normally anyway. The Sionics M14 suppressor did have a "bleed valve", but its overall design was really different than modern suppressors (ie, nobody uses its design elements for good reasons).

 

[kingcheese]

like i said, i dont know much, but i figured that maybe you can sacrafice some performance to keep the tube from blowing up do to holding to much presure, but if it doesnt need to drop presure any quicker, then i would say forget the porting idea i brought up