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Swiss Null B

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by kwhi43@kc.rr.com, May 12, 2013.

  1. kwhi43@kc.rr.com

    kwhi43@kc.rr.com Well-Known Member

  2. BlackNet

    BlackNet Well-Known Member

    OH yes, that is some good stuff. Super fine to. Grain size is 0.25 - 0.19mm

    Left is FFFg, right is FFFFg, middle is Null-B.
  3. Nfield4

    Nfield4 member

    That's fast!
  4. Crawdad1

    Crawdad1 Well-Known Member

    That video is eye opening and so that photo.
  5. Jaymo

    Jaymo Well-Known Member

    No, no, no. Flintlocks are slow. Just ask the armchair experts. Haven't you seen the movies?

    That is very impressive. I'd thought of using it for my rock lock pan. Now I know it's good stuff.

    When people speak of ignition delay in sidelocks, they are often not aware of the optical illusion.
    They see the flash at the breech, and then the flash at the muzzle.
    Well, with an inline or a cartridge gun, you don't see a flash at the breech.
    No bullet leaves the muzzle at the instant of primer ignition. There is always a short delay between primer ignition, and muzzle flash.
    The bullet can't be in two places at once.
    Plus, a 42 inch long barrel is going to appear to have more delay, because the flame front has to travel 3-1/2 FEET, before reaching the muzzle.

    With a good lock, the "delay" has nothing to do with ignition, and everything to do with your eyes playing tricks on your brain.
    Plus, the lower the velocity, the longer the perceived "delay".

    Then again, we live in a world where new shooters learn everything they think they know about guns from movies and video games.
    I know people who actually think that shooting a pistol "gangsta style" is more accurate, because it doesn't recoil upwards as much.

    God help us.

    Great case in point, the Colt Python .357 is LESS powerful than the CZ75 9x19 and the Makarov 9x18, on the Call of Duty video game series. (?!?!??)

    I remember learning about guns from gun people.
    Now, the kids learn about guns from uber-geeks who grew up playing Dungeons and Dragons in their Grandma's basements.

    Rant off. Sorry Phil.

    Your flintlock ignition video should be required viewing for anyone wishing to post on THR BP forum.

    It looks like the Goex 4f will be relegated to pocket revolver (31 and 36 cal) duty, and I'll need to get some Null-B for the flash pan on the Dixie TMR.
    Now, I want a flintlock pistol.
    Last edited: May 12, 2013
  6. mykeal

    mykeal Well-Known Member

    A nice video, to be sure.

    I'd rather, however, require Larry Pletcher's Friendship videos using the ultra high speed Olympus camera be the videos we must watch in Flintlocks 101.

    Here's your NullB firing upside down in a large Siler; there are many, many more on all aspects of flintlock ignition, including studies of locks, amount and location of primer, touch hole geometry, etc.
  7. fdf

    fdf Well-Known Member

    I have been mentored by some High Master and Master Pistol shooters and I do thank them for my teachings.

    In all honesty, they are an elite group, when it comes to group talent and willingly to share what they know about pistol shooting they are unmatched.

    In flintlock pistols they use either 7F or NullB in the pan and do so for a reason, it is a winner, along with a lot of hard work.

    They use the above, they win with it.
  8. Mike OTDP

    Mike OTDP Well-Known Member

    Yup. Ever since it became available, Null B has been the standard for championship priming powders. It's a quantum leap over 4F.
  9. BlackNet

    BlackNet Well-Known Member

  10. kwhi43@kc.rr.com

    kwhi43@kc.rr.com Well-Known Member

    Larry Pletcher who did the powder timing test is a friend of mine. We get
    Together at his camp at Friendship and talk about powder stuff. He was very
    Interested in my Flintlock pistol. Small world sometimes. I have known Larry
    For several years. Oh the buddy of mine in the picture here Dwayne shot a
    Perfect score of 50 on his crow target right after I took the picture Saturday.
    I must of brought him luck.

    Last edited: May 13, 2013
  11. kwhi43@kc.rr.com

    kwhi43@kc.rr.com Well-Known Member

    Another friend of mine Tim shot a 50 perfect score also Sat. We got some
    tough shooters in our club. This is in Kansas City Mo.

  12. mykeal

    mykeal Well-Known Member

    Larry's videos are a treasure trove of real honest data on flintlock performance. I wish they were all gathered together in one location and indexed. Priceless stuff.

    Oh, and yeah, pretty good shootin'. The only time I had a score like that it was on somebody else's target...
  13. kwhi43@kc.rr.com

    kwhi43@kc.rr.com Well-Known Member

    This is the guy who makes the "Lightning" pistol. Tim Brazzel


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