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Tactical Schmactical

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by HSMITH, Jan 3, 2003.


    HSMITH Well-Known Member

    Who else is sick of all the "tactical" garbage associated with guns and shooting? Tactical sights, tactical load bearing vests, tactical reloads, tactical finishes, tactical stance, tactical grips or stocks, tactical scopes and ON AND ON AND ON!!!! Where did common sense leave and "tactical" take over? Did I miss it completely? What is next? A tactical mess kit for when SHTF? (another rant could start there, but I digress) Black tactical polymer plate and utensils held in a black tactical mess bag of super tactical nylon? With infared tactical super illuminating heating elements for the tactical warming of meals? Stinks of mall ninja gunshop commando that has not been there or done any of that to me.

    I can absolutely see using the right tool for the right job, but does it have to be tactical? All you see anymore is "tactical" everything. Does anyone shoot an AR or a defensive shotgun anymore without a scope, light, laser, ammo attached, super sling and bipod anymore? Some of the guns are straight out of hollyweird.

    I guess it would help if the "tactical" guys I see at the range could actually shoot. Most are miserable shots, either spraying lead all over or bench jockeys that could not hit their own butts with an unflolded road map offhand or even kneeling. Very poor practice regimens are not part of tactical training are they? To be honest the "tactical mindset" that most of them have told me about makes me a tad nervous too.

    Where did I miss the boat? I do admit some of the toys these guys drag out are pretty cool, but I just don't get it. Lest you think I am some sort of old fuddy-duddy (apologies to the fuddy-duddies;) ) I am under 35 years old, veteran, shot my whole life, and have been very close to law enforcement for years and years.

    OK, rant off. What do you think? Comments?
  2. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

    Take a couple of valiums & take a seat next to the Mad Ogre. He beat cha to that rant.
  3. Schuey2002

    Schuey2002 Well-Known Member

    Some black & white critters are not going to like this...

    You know, the smelly ones :D
  4. AZTOY

    AZTOY Well-Known Member

    Is there "tactical" way to kill Fido:neener:
  5. Diesle

    Diesle Well-Known Member

    tac·ti·cal ( P ) Pronunciation Key (tkt-kl)

    Of, relating to, or using tactics.

    Of, relating to, used in, or involving military or naval operations that are smaller, closer to base, and of less long-term significance than strategic operations.
    Carried out in support of military or naval operations: tactical bombing.

    Characterized by adroitness, ingenuity, or skill.

    Seems appropriate to me.

  6. Penman

    Penman Well-Known Member

    "Tactical" has become a marketing term, and unfortunately this has muddied the water in terms of defining good tactics and equipment for defensive situations.

    I recall a deputy in our county who carried a 1911 as his sidearm. He also had a shotgun in his rig, a 12 gauge SXS, and the rifle he usually had was a Ruger #1 in 22-250. He was also one of the best woodsmen in the area, and although none of his gear was black or "tactical", everyone knew they shouldn't mess with him.
  7. New_comer

    New_comer Well-Known Member

    Tactical is Black :evil:

    Tactical is cool :cool:

    Tactical is expensive :what:

    I like Tactical! :D
  8. Blackcloud6

    Blackcloud6 Well-Known Member

    Had "tactical" camouflage minimag light once. Dropped it hunting at dusk and couldn't find it. Got me nice bright red non-tactical one now. Drop it, see it, pick it back up...
  9. Schuey2002

    Schuey2002 Well-Known Member

    I'm just waiting for someone to post SMGLee's "Tactical" description of the Skunkster...
  10. MiniZ

    MiniZ Well-Known Member

    I think in defiance of the "evil black tactical rifle", I'll build an AR on a yellow Cav Arms lower.
  11. sm

    sm member

    Slide over HSMITH,Mad Ogre, another one here a bit tired of the term for everything. I appreciate igenuity and skill, its the person with a tool, preferebly the right tool--not a marketing tool. IMO
  12. John Galt

    John Galt Well-Known Member

    Someone post the link to those "high fashion" polka dot and pink, etc firearms. That was pretty funny.

    I was wondering, If I buy a "banned" AR-15 & paint it pink will it no longer be an evil assault rifle? After all, it's all about looks isn't it?
  13. faustulus

    faustulus Well-Known Member

    How do you really feel? :p
  14. dfrog

    dfrog Well-Known Member

    HSMITH, did I tell you I just got a Kimber Pro-Tactical 45? Fits nice in my Tactical Elite holster. Almost forgot to mention my Turbo Tactical mags!

    No seriously, once I bought my Extreme Pro Tactical running shoes, I had to have something that matched.:) :D
  15. BerettaNut92

    BerettaNut92 Well-Known Member

  16. Rangerover

    Rangerover Well-Known Member

    Hmmm...just about anything could be called "Tactical" these days I guess...

    I'm sure someone has drawn the analogy before, but my new girlfriend got a little wisp of a garment from Victoria's Secret the other day that fits many of the criteria of "Tactical":

    1) It's expensive
    2) It's black.
    3) It's used primarily at night.
    4) It's lightweight.
    5) It's snag-free.
    6) She can get out of it with one hand.
    7) It's easily concealed.
    8) It definitely doesn't restrict her movement.
    9) It's dangerous because when I saw her in it my head almost
    10) It would stop a 200 lb man in his tracks.


    TACTICAL!!! :what:
  17. Mike Irwin

    Mike Irwin Well-Known Member

    I'm still waiting for tactical on-gun GPS units and IFF tactical grips.

    Yeah, I think the entire craze is pretty :cuss:

    ROSANGHAL Active Member

    As far as liking the term "Tactical" on items. I can live with it if it's got use for it. Like these for instance.

    They're totally tactical! No one sees them when I have them on so they're totally stealthy too! :D Except the one time I walked around with them exposed and was printing big time. I got in some trouble that time......but that's another story :D

    I'm just wondering where I gotta put the kevlar plates though??? :D

    Ross T.

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  19. Edward429451

    Edward429451 member

  20. labgrade

    labgrade Member In Memoriam

    Nuke Wesley for the ratings!


    & Edward. Have my Best Hunting Bud who lost his camo flashlight - problem was = wasn't dark, wasn't on = lost it forever. We know where it was lost - within maybe 20 yards. Problem is = It's tactical, & it's lost forever. Really does work for me.

    Tactical is rediculous & used as a marketig tool now-a-days.

    Used to mean - mere 5 years ago - as a method, a way - not as a marketing term.

    Know some who are so much more tactical with a bare-bones semi-.22 auto/revolver (GG! with a wrist-rocket) than anything now known as a .308-clad, bolt, supressed "sniper-guy."


    Do doubt toys are col enough, but toys don't make anything.

    Huh. I'd dare-say, tactics do.

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