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Tancredo asks for border official's head

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Desertdog, May 22, 2005.

  1. Desertdog

    Desertdog Well-Known Member

    I know some of you will say that it is too soon to be asking for the resignation or firing of the agent in charge. Since he is a government employee it will take more evidence than needed to convict a murderer to have him fired. If he does not resign, he will probably be promoted to a plush job in DC. I say this from being a federal employee for 30 years.

    Tancredo asks for border official's head
    10 House members call for investigation of stand-down order

    WASHINGTON – Eight members of the House of Representatives, led by Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., and chairman of the House Immigration Reform Committee, are calling for the resignation of a Border Patrol official in Arizona who is alleged to have told his agents to stand down following the Minuteman Project vigil in April so that an increase in apprehensions of illegal aliens would not give the citizen group bragging rights.

    The focus of attention is Michael Nicely, agent-in-charge of the Tucson Sector of the Border Patrol. He is accused by a dozen of his agents of ordering them to be less than aggressive in arrests beginning in early May.

    Eight members of the House signed a letter written by Tancredo to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff calling for Nicely's resignation.

    A total of 10 members signed a separate letter by Tancredo calling for the House Judiciary Committee to initiate an investigation into the "stand down" orders.

    "Any government official who seeks to thwart the law is derelict in his duty to the American people," said Tancredo. "Mr. Nicely must take responsibility for his actions and turn over his post to someone who is willing to enforce the law."

    A dozen Border Patrol agents told the Washington Times they had been instructed to "stand down" from arresting illegal aliens near where Minutemen protestors had patrolled in April. The agents understood that an increase in arrests would prove the effectiveness of extra manpower on the border and would credit the Minutemen's approach. Several sources, including the president of the National Border Patrol Council, have confirmed the newspaper report.

    Tancredo called for a congressional investigation into the action.

    "In a post-9/11 world, it is critical that we send the message that we're serious about border security. A Congressional investigation will get to the bottom of these troubling and dangerous practices," he said.

    "If Mr. Nicely was acting on orders from officials higher up in the border bureaucracy, more heads should roll. Congress needs to exercise more active oversight of our border security."
  2. Biker

    Biker Well-Known Member

    I'd like to "Nicely" hand his head over to Tancredo. This is treason.
  3. Lone_Gunman

    Lone_Gunman Well-Known Member

  4. Reno

    Reno Well-Known Member

    Lone Gunman, how is that even remotely relevant?

    Tancredo wrote a letter calling for a resignation. WND reported it.
  5. Desertdog

    Desertdog Well-Known Member

    This is something main stream media will not do, which is why their numbers are falling like a rock.
  6. gc70

    gc70 Well-Known Member

  7. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    In which case, let's get rid of most of our elected misrepresentatives.

    You know, now that I stop to think about it...
  8. SIOP

    SIOP Well-Known Member

    The outrage should be directed at the current occupant of the White House, not at the help.
  9. 2nd Amendment

    2nd Amendment member


    When all else fails attack the messenger?
  10. ksnecktieman

    ksnecktieman Well-Known Member

    OK? Nicely said they should decieve the american people, by ignoring violations?

    Tancredo is calling for his resignation because of "dereliction of duty"?

    I think Nicely made a boo boo, and got caught.

    I think Tancredo is on the high road this time. Did I miss something?
  11. rick_reno

    rick_reno member

    Here, here - the current occupant of the White House is a strong supporter of strong borders. Just listen to what he's said, he tells us about it ALL the time talking about "national security" and the like. Just remember, it's not fair to look at what he's done.
  12. ksnecktieman

    ksnecktieman Well-Known Member

    Rick? SIOP?? You are saying GWB called MR Nicely, and ordered this?

    SORRY,,, put up or shut up, please?,,,


    I mean, do you have a link to that????
  13. 2nd Amendment

    2nd Amendment member

    Well, actually, this is a reflection on that question from another thread regarding would soldiers fire on civilians. Or even the entire "police state" debate around here. We have before us an example of a lower level flunky mindlessly doing what the higher level flunkies told him to do in spite of the fact it was obviously wrong. Thus they are all to blame AND we have an example of how some will just follow orders/policy...regardless of how stupid things may be.

    OTOH we have some lowest level flunkies showing some spine and standing up to their immediate superior, and thus the nasty SOB's all the way up the ladder, proving not every government employee is a mindless lacky... Several of our debates in microcosm, ya know? :D
  14. Biker

    Biker Well-Known Member

    I can't speak for Rick, but through Bush's actions, he has made it clear that he and Nicely are on the same page.
    Can you deny this?
  15. Lone_Gunman

    Lone_Gunman Well-Known Member

    Sorry about all the fuss my comment caused. I actually didn't even read the article, after I saw who had published it. Worldnetdaily has been wrong on a bunch of stories, so I have pretty much stopped worrying about things they have published.

    Now, if they actually were right on this one, thats great. I have read other sources talking about this, so maybe they actually got a story right.

    In any case, if this story is true then they really need to bust the guy who gave this order, as far up the chain of command as necessary.
  16. 2nd Amendment

    2nd Amendment member

    So we can assume you also ignore CBS, Newsweak, the NYT, etc since they have also been "wrong" lately...?
  17. Old Fuff

    Old Fuff Well-Known Member

    We may see a slowdown anyway. The area is going through a heat wave, and daytime temps have been over 100 degrees. This may go on for most of this coming week before things get better. Some will try to get through at night, but if they don't make it or get lost they could be in serious trouble. To see what's going on check your national weather report or go to www.accuweather.com and enter ZIP Code 85615 for a local forcast.
  18. Selfdfenz

    Selfdfenz Well-Known Member

    Many people much higher in the chain of command at BP and INS than Mr. Nicely deserve to be without jobs.
    Him for sure, but many others also.
    And W's on-and-off again funding for hiring new BP agents ranks right up there with "Read my lips...."

    Tancredo for Pres!

  19. SIOP

    SIOP Well-Known Member

    A link to what? GWB calling the Minutemen "vigilantes" or a picture of him kissing Vicente Fox's ass and pledging his support for Mexico's illegal alien agenda? Or for his "amnesty" plan?
  20. Waitone

    Waitone Well-Known Member

    The goober issuing the order needs to be piked. The ultimate problem lies with Bush. There will be a day of accountability for actions not taken.

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