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Target rifle 30-06/270/243?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by C-grunt, Sep 10, 2009.

  1. C-grunt

    C-grunt Well-Known Member

    Im looking to buy a Savage rifle in one of these chamberings and turning it into a light target rifle. I know any of these rounds will be good for the ranges Im most likely to shoot at (a few hundred yards) but which would be the best in your opinion?

    Which is easier to get proper bullets for distance shooting. Which has the best BC? Least drop at distance? ETC....


  2. viking499

    viking499 Well-Known Member

    243 would be easier on the shoulder if shooting alot. Lots of good 6mm bullets out there.
  3. Uncle Mike

    Uncle Mike Well-Known Member

    Oh that's easy... the .30-06!
  4. GRIZ22

    GRIZ22 Well-Known Member

    I'd go 30-06. Vast choice of components available. The 270 may shoot a bit flatter but I've never seen one prepped as a "target rifle".
  5. Slamfire

    Slamfire Well-Known Member

    I know one guy who uses a 243 as a target rifle. He is a shooter from Georgia and he changes his barrel out at least once per season. I think the accuracy life of a .243 barrel is under 1000 rounds.

    If you are serious about shooting this as a target rifle there are a lot more cartridges that are better choices.

    Both the 30-06 and 270 are going to kick hard.

    While the 308 is obsolescent, your barrel life will be close to 4000 rounds.

    Any of the 6.5 mm rounds have better ballistics than a 270 or 30 caliber bullet. Expect barrel life to be about 1500 rounds.

    Bullet drop is not a "big" issue with target shooting. (Except for Black powder. At a long range black match, never ever park behind the target butts. One hole in your truck will make you a believer) You simply shoot from fixed distances, 200, 300, 500, 600 yards and dial in the same elevation you used before.
  6. cyclopsshooter

    cyclopsshooter Well-Known Member

    270 groups much tighter- i use a savage 110 with a 3-9... Sub inch group all shots touching from a bench at 100 yards
  7. 52grain

    52grain Well-Known Member

    For target shooting, .308 is probably going to be more common. Another option is .223 but you will want to pay close attention to barrel twist rates if you want to shoot past about 200 yards.
  8. USSR

    USSR Well-Known Member

    Here's the scoop. There are alot of high BC 6mm bullets out there; only problem is, they are generally too heavy for a factory .243 rifle's twist to stabilize. There a very few quality, high BC .277" bullets available, so the .270 would be the worst choice of the three. There are many high BC .308" match bullets out there, and the .30-06's 1-10" twist will easily stabilize these 190gr to 210gr bullets. You take it from here.

  9. C-grunt

    C-grunt Well-Known Member

    Thanks USSR. Thats what I wanted to know. I originally wanted a .223 or .308 but they seem to be kinda hard to find around here for a decent price. I had a Savage 10FP in .308 before and worked up a couple nice loads. I want something that shoots close to that performance without the weight.
  10. oneounceload

    oneounceload member

    Any of the top target shooters I have seen shoot 6mm bullets - granted, it's in a 6mm BR version of some sort, but they put all their shots in one ragged hole
  11. browningguy

    browningguy Well-Known Member

    Mine is a Savage 12 FV in .243. But you need to handload to really get good match grade ammo, I have loads with the 85 gr. Sierra, 68 gr. Berger and 105, as far as I know no one loads factory match ammo for it. If you handload you can build loads with better ballistics than the '06 and a lot less recoil, and recoil does matter. The standard Savage twist for .243 will stabilize just about everything up to 108 gr. although if you try to use VLD bullets they generally become a single shot proposition as they have to be loaded too long to fit in the magazine.


    As onounceload mentioned, all the long range shooters are winning with 6mm and 6.5 bullets.
  12. DIM

    DIM Well-Known Member

    .308 would be a wise choice, if you need one find licensed dealer they can order for you anything you like from savage or what else is out there… I would recommend to go with SUB MOA guaranteed riffles like Weatherby Vanguard or TC ICON or TC Venture line, I just got TC ICON PH in ,308 this thing shoots 0.26 MOA, at 300 yards it groups 0.985”.
  13. biblefreak

    biblefreak Well-Known Member

    Since he is looking at the Savage which has a 1 in 9.25" twist he should be good to go with all but the heaviest Bergers. I have seen a couple of comments on the Midway site on the 105gr A-max where folks specify the Savage as their rifle and are getting good results. My second time out with my used (new to me) Savage .243 I got a real nice sub 3/4" group using 100gr cheapo Federal at 13.99 box. I am excited to see what this rifle will do with handloads!
  14. C-grunt

    C-grunt Well-Known Member

    I read that as well today. The .243 is looking pretty good. Lower recoil and great selection of good long range bullets.
  15. Without a doubt, the .243 Win out to 300 or 400 yards, really even out to 600 or so if you want to push it. Better trajectory (less wind drift), AND less recoil and ammo expense. What's not to like? A medium-BC, "mid-weight" .243 bullet (80-85 grains) will get to the target so much faster than a higher BC 175-210 .30 cal that the velocity easily trumps the better BC of the .30 cals, for anything under 400 yards. And you don't need any special twist for that - 1 in 10 or 1 in 12 is fine.

    This question is what's known in technical parlance as a no-brainer. :)
  16. chevyforlife21

    chevyforlife21 Well-Known Member

    well my savage 243 is really accurate it hits the same bullet hole alot at 100 yards. but 243 barrels wear out fast due to the excessive pressure i heard. it does have light recoil though that's a big plus for target shooting. like most will tell you just go with the 30-06 though.
  17. jpwilly

    jpwilly Well-Known Member

    I too would go with .243 provided your not going to try to take big game.
  18. lefteyedom

    lefteyedom Well-Known Member

    Get the 243, then save some cash up and rebarrel it in 6.5x284. Then you would have the basic building bocks for 1000 yard rifle.
  19. rangerruck

    rangerruck Well-Known Member

    243; better selection of high grade 6mm bullets, plus there is a factory bullet out there, made byHS munitions , that uses a vld bullet, and these are 25 bucks a box, not bad really, but handloading would be the way to go. And considering if the twist is 1/9.5, that is perfect.


    matter of fact, I highly recommend these peeps for all your shooting needs.
  20. Runningman

    Runningman Well-Known Member

    Since you are looking at Savage rifles you might want to check out their Heavy barrel rifles models with 1 in 8 twist. In the 6mm Norma BR or 6.5 x 284 NORMA. Even the 6mm Norma BR with a 1 in 8 twist barrel using long bullets is capable of extremely good accuracy at 600 yards. The 6.5 x 284 NORMA would have less drop though.

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