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Taurus vs Charter Arms

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Patriotme, Apr 12, 2011.

  1. Patriotme

    Patriotme Well-Known Member

    I realize that neither brand is exactly considered top of the line but some people can barely scrape together enough money to buy a gun.
    If you only had $300 to spend on a 2" .38spl which brand would you prefer and why?
    I know that there are other choices out there and used guns can run $300 or less but this is about these two specific choices of snub nosed .38's.
  2. ColtPythonElite

    ColtPythonElite Well-Known Member

    I can't say anything about either, but can recommend a Rossi 88 for a budget snub. I had one years ago and found it to be a pretty good carry gun.
  3. Deus Machina

    Deus Machina Well-Known Member

    I'd look for a used S&W Model 10 first.

    That said, I've been quite happy with my 2.5" Taurus M85 UL, and would gladly buy another. I'm a little leery about running the harshest of .38 +P through it, but believe the old thought that 158gr SWJHP will do the job if I can.

    I''ve also heard high praise of Charter Arms' recent revolvers for the price range, but have no firsthand firing experience. A quick look at a couple left me with a good opinion of their fit and finish, but they're definitely not Ruger.
  4. Onward Allusion

    Onward Allusion Well-Known Member

    The Taurus revolvers are ok guns. Triggers & action nothing to write home about but completely reliable if you use non +P rounds. Yes, I do know that they are +P rated, but I'm not willing to risk my life on a Taurus .38 special that has been fed a steady diet of +P rounds. Heck, I wouldn't risk my life on any revolver that has been fed a steady diet of +P 38 spl rounds unless it was a 357 Magnum.

    If you go with Charter Arms, go with old stuff or brand new manufacturing. Stay away from the late 80's all the way to the last few years.
  5. mr_goodbomb

    mr_goodbomb member

    Taurus has a lifetime warranty, correct?
  6. 03Shadowbob

    03Shadowbob Well-Known Member

    My Taurus Model 85 SS (made back in 1989 or so) is one my my most solid guns and the trigger is great in double action and will surprise you in single action. Accurate also. I'd go with a similar Taurus 85. You couldn't pay me to have a newer model Taurus anything. I've sent back 3 different models before I got smart.
  7. Deus Machina

    Deus Machina Well-Known Member

    In writing, but internet reports are that they don't make it easy.
  8. Loyalist Dave

    Loyalist Dave Well-Known Member

    I bought a 7-shot Taurus .357 with a short barrel, simply because I thought it was odd, and fun, not for any serious application other than targets. It shoots very well, and I would get another without a problem. I have seen a Charter arms in 5-shot with a 3" barrel (iirc), and adjustable sights that I fing curious as well. It looked to me to be better than many of the past CA's that I had handled. As I haven't shot a CA in a very long time..., I'd have to say Taurus for now.

  9. Leathermarshmallow

    Leathermarshmallow Well-Known Member

    I don't have the .38, but I have a charter .44 special that I really like. It is of recent manufacture and is a trustworthy gun.

    MMCSRET Well-Known Member

    I have Taurus and CA revolvers, they have been reliable and trouble free for me over almost 30 years.
  11. dallascj

    dallascj Well-Known Member

    I have both and have had no issues with them. I have a CA .44 Special and about 15 Taurus revolvers. The Taurus Model 85 is their biggest seller.
  12. oldfool

    oldfool Well-Known Member

    problem with Charter is what post #4 said, the company has so many reincarnations over time, hard to tell what to think about 'em

    Taurus QC is all over the map also, but their model 85, as others have noted, gets consistently good marks. I liked a couple of 'em that I shot, although I do not own one. If I was in the market for another snubbie 38, the 85 would be high on my short list, and I would not worry about shooting 38+P in them. Like my k-frame 357s, they would see a whole lot of 'cheap' 38 fodder on range day, and far fewer 38+P JHPs. Factory 38+P is just not all that hot a load. I have on occasion shot up a whole box of 38+p at the range without realizing it was +P (vs 38 sp) until after the box was empty.

    (and that opinion of the Taurus 85 snubbie comes from a S&W model 60 and Ruger SP101 fan)
  13. jkulysses

    jkulysses Well-Known Member

    If I had to choose between those two brands I would pick Charter Arms any day of the week. I swore Taurus off for life because of poor QC, customer service and turn around time for warranty repairs. My dad picked up a little Charter Arms .22mag Pathfinder a couple months back and it's been a great little revolver so far but thats my only experience with Charter Arms. I personally would find some stuff I got laying around to sell or find a little side project to make an extra hundred or $150 bucks and get a Ruger speaking of which i got a .357 LCR coming from Davidson's should be here on Thursday!!
  14. oldfool

    oldfool Well-Known Member

    crappy Taurus QC in general has nothing to do with specific model hands on experience
    OP is not a brand war, it requests feedback on specific model and/or model/vintage

    get your dad to post up on THIS thread
    some us seeking specific feedback on Charter Pathfinder rimfire
    (me in particular re: the 22 mag, how good was fit and finish, how good is the DA trigger, and can you compare that to some other small frame DA trigger ???)
  15. weregunner

    weregunner Well-Known Member

    If you want the story on the Taurus snub revolvers please pick a model/s and I can find the info for you.

    I own a number of Taurus snub revolvers and find they are durable,reliable, and a bargain.

    First off I own a 85CH in .38 Special that is +25 years old and not +P qualified.

    Buffalo Bore and Federal Nyclads help out there with excellent standard pressure rounds.

    Buffale Bore makes a 158gr. LSWCHP that has the velocity of the +P version without the recoil of the +P.

    Federal makes the 125 gr. LSWCHP Nyclad that makes a good practice and decent protection round.

    My Taurus 856 magnesium framed Lyte model gets those as well. The 856 in the magnesium model or the stainless regular frame holds 6 shot instead of 5 and on a model 85 frame. I own both stainless models, but one is the magnesium model.

    Next up is the 327 in .327 Federal magnum. Not only is this a 6 shot model, but .32 H&R magnum rounds and .32 S&W Long rounds can be shot through it.

    This makes for versatility and a gun that new shooters can be introduced to.

    Tailor the ammo to the mission.

    Then comes the Rossi 462 in .357 magnum. This is a six shot gun, but the Rossi 351/352 family are 5 rounders and in .38 Special.

    Rossi is owned by Taurus now.

    There are also the Taurus 650/651/850/851 family to consider as well. Add to that all the Taurus 85 models to look at.

    Want a 7 shot snub revolver? The 617 and the 817UL have it.

    The few Charter Arms revolvers that I have been able to handle or shoot briefly seemed to be good solid pieces.

    What ever fits you and your needs is the way to go.

    If you use this you cannot go wrong.

    Whether it is a Taurus or a Charter, should you choose to go those ways, or some other revolver, we should celebrate your pick.

    Handle as many different models as you can. That way you can see first hand what's what.
  16. MikeNice

    MikeNice Well-Known Member

    I have been running a Taurus 85b3. No issues with over three hundred rounds of +p ammo since I aquired it. I have no idea how many rounds it fired in its previous life. All I know is that it performs well and I am confident with it.
  17. joed

    joed Well-Known Member

    I've owned a Charter Bulldog bought new in 2004. I wouldn't own another Charter Arms product and feel that anyone associated with Charter should be put to death.

    I replaced the Charter with a Taurus, easily 3 times the gun of a Charter.
  18. bikerdoc

    bikerdoc Moderator

    Yawn, another Taurus thread.

    I own both. A 70's CA , and A Taurus 605 (357 3inch) both are good guns. Both get carried. Not as much as my Rugers, but the are dedendable. If you are asking me to pick one - Taurus.
  19. hardluk1

    hardluk1 member

    I have a 1980's taurus 85SS that has one of lightest and smoothest handgun triggers I have had in my hand. I carried that for 20+ years. Great shooter . I also own a new charter arms ultra lite and can say it to shoots well. Not as good a trigger but with wolf springs it is now real nice and it does slick up with rounds fored. At 13oz it can be a hand full under recoil with +p loads. Just besure a charter arms say's just that on the frame. Not charter or charter 2000. I also use a old taurus 22 for practice .
  20. Jim NE

    Jim NE Well-Known Member

    I owned two Charter Arms revolvers about 25 years ago, both purchased brand new. Hopefully, Charter Arms has improved since then. The first was a .38 snubnose which looked fine and was surprisingly accurate, but the cylinder wouldn't open after the gun had been fired, and the ejector could barely push the spent brass out of the chambers, they were in there so tight.

    Still, the gun was accurate, so I bought another one, a larger .357 model. I was hoping that, being larger and sturdier, it wouldn't have the same problem, but lo and behold it did. I also had one of those Explorer survival .22 pistols (bought used), and it didn't work that great, either.

    Too bad. I really wanted them to be good guns, and I gave C.A. several opportunities to prove this. They didn't. I guess it's possible they've improved since then.

    Never had a Taurus, but I've had good luck with the one Rossi I've owned.
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2011

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