Tell my Dad why .22LR/.25ACP is no good for SD

[orionengnr]

"I can hide it in my back pocket"

I can hide two quarters in my back pocket. Bart Simpson keeps a slingshot in his back pocket.

So what? Neither is suitable for self defense.

Please point out to him that he can also keep an LCP in that same back pocket, and it at least is a marginally effective self defense round.

As I've said before, I hope I am never in a gunfight. But if I am, I hope to Hell my opponent is using a .22, .25, .32...because I will be using a .45, and I sure like my odds in that match-up.

 

[Joe Demko]

Your .45 doesn't make you bullet-proof; as I hope you do not find to your sorrow should you run into a .22-toter with the will to shoot first and the skill to place it well.

 

[christcorp]

Carl Levitian; thank you for restoring common sense and faith. The whole: "Shooting someone with a 22, 32, 380, etc... is just going to p iss off an attacker" is such a crock. Any criminal that comes after you on the street or in your house (Assuming they believe you are home), is 99% assuming that you aren't armed. If they thought you were, they wouldn't even be messing with you. They'd instantly be looking for an easier target, which there are thousands of. The minute you resist, with a gun, you've forced the criminal to concentrate on that 1% that he was betting against. His gun, if he's got one, is intended for intimidation. (His intention is to rob or rape). You gun if carried, is (Should be) for defense and for shooting him. It's not for intimidation. And the criminal knows this. They will flee. Especially considering that they have absolutely no idea what caliber the gun is in the first place. And I doubt they are going to stick around just to find out what caliber it is.

 

[kludge]

If he wants a "back pocket gun" show him a Kel Tec P-3AT and a Ruger LCP.

 

[Fryerpower]

Try a S&W 642 (J frame .38 special)

I have been doing a LOT of research latey. A mouse gun for me (primary in my shorts in the summer, backup in the cool weather), a carry weapon for my wife (29 years old for the last several years), and a carry weapon for my mom (60-ish).

For my mom my brother and I are buying a S&W Airweight 642. It is a J frame .38 special. She can't wait. If she does not like it I will buy it from her for myself. I love the way it slides into my pocket. You can't tell you are carrying. It is 'hammerless' so you cannot snag the hammer when pulling it out.

My wife is going to shoot it to see if she likes it. I may end up buying two of them! Start with non +P ammo to get used to shooting. Shoot a few +P once you are ready. Carry +P for the real deal.

I'm leaning toward an LCP (.380) or a Kel-Tek .32 for my mouse gun. I carry a Makarov 9x18 on my person in cooler weather and in the car in hot weather. For a house gun we have a Ruger P85 MKII (9mm) with 15 round magazine in it, an 18 round magazine next to it, and a 31 round magazine next to that.

These are great pages to read up on:

Revolvers for older people or people with limited use of their hands.
http://www.snubnose.info/docs/age.htm

Why carry?
http://www.snubnose.info/docs/why_carry.htm

Lots of info about snub nose revolvers.
http://www.snubnose.info/

Tactics.
http://www.snubnose.info/tactics.htm

-Jim

 

[stchman]

While .25ACP and .22LR are not powerhouses there are a lot of people that carry those little NAA revolvers for CCW. They are very small and are better that having nothing.

Either caliber is capable of doing a fair amount of damage if you hit the assailant in the right spot.

A better CCW gun would probably be a sub-compact 9mm like a Glock 26.

 

[SwampWolf]

Buy your dad a nice revolver in .38spl/.357mag, or a 9mm semi, or a 12ga., etc.

And get one you really like. That way, when he turns it down, you'll have a nice addition to your collection.

 

[m2steven]

because unless you hit someone in the head or the heart, it's probably not going to get the job done.