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Thank you - i have purchased a 44

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Trent, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. camar

    camar Well-Known Member

    Maybe I missed it, but I did not see anyone suggest to you to find a gun store that has a range and rents out guns. I would suggest doing this if possible to save you time and money.:)
  2. Trent

    Trent Resident Wiseguy

    Funny, I suggested that very thing to someone shopping for 45's right here on this forum a couple days ago.

    I've already looked in to it, the ranges around here all rent auto-bangers, and I've shot all of those for the most part.

    One thing I'm surprised about, I haven't seen a 44 mag at the range in years. The only time I've shot a 44 mag, it was loaded with 44 special. I remember that being pretty mild. But never shot a 44 mag, proper.

    I can just picture pulling out a big old 7 1/2" barrel 44 magnum at the next pin shoot this spring.

    "Shooters ready..." BZZZZZZ

    people open up with their little pea shooters.. pop..pop... pop... {trent smirks} BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! HAHAHA!

    (Yes, my BOOMS will have an exclamation point.)

    Annnd this is why I normally don't post the very first thing in the morning.

    Will continue with my cup of Joe now and quit making an ass of myself. :)
  3. HankR

    HankR Well-Known Member

    Fully understood. It's your fingers we're talking about, and your choice. I just thought I'd mention the option. Truthfully, I won't buy a .45 Colt that I don't think will handle the "Ruger only" loads, even though I rarely load them that way these days, so we feel the same way about that. I just don't happen to have an family heirloom/antique .45 Colt to confuse the issue.

    Just wanted to be sure you were aware of the option.
  4. tnelson31

    tnelson31 Well-Known Member

    If you can wait until summer and can meet around the wi/il border, I have a 29-2 you can shoot all day long. For free!

    Of course it would be nice if you brought your rpd with you...
  5. BCRider

    BCRider Well-Known Member

    And don't forget the mandatory diabolical evil laugh after each shot... :D
  6. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    Heh heh...when I first picked up my 629, I didn't have reloading gear for it, so I ran to a few local shops to buy enough ammo to shoot it in a match that weekend.

    Of course I could only find a couple boxes of .44 Spc. and when that was gone I switched to 180 gr. Rem. Magnums. As it happened, that was rather sudden, right in the middle of a stage... "Pow, Pow, Pow, BOOOOM, BOOOOM, BOOOM!"

    Seemed to catch the SO's attention! :D
  7. Deer_Freak

    Deer_Freak Member.

    In the OP Trent expressed a desire to be able to hit targets at 100 yards. I am not 100% accurate with my Dan Wesson 15-2 with a 10" barrel at 60 yards. Many posters are mentioning guns with a 5" or shorter barrel. For hunting a longer barrel is much better. Gas expands better in a long barrel, not to mention an improved sight plane.

    This is the only real life side by side comparison I have ever taken part in. The local sheriffs Dept was considering switching to Fiocchi ammunition for their 357 mag off duty/secondary weapons. A 125 gr SJHP fired from a 4" barrel when clocked by a chronograph was traveling around 1650 FPS from several different guns. The same ammo when fired from a Ruger Blackhawk with a 6.5" barrel was clocked at 1740 FPS.

    Trent wants a 44 mag that will gain even more velocity than a 357 mag from a longer barrel.
  8. CraigC

    CraigC Well-Known Member

    Actually the .357 tends to gain more velocity in longer barrels than the .44Mag.

    A longer sight radius is typically better for accurate shooting but that does not mean one cannot shoot accurately with a shorter barrel. I've managed 2"@50yds with a 629MG and its 4" tube as well as a 4 5/8" Ruger. It takes greater concentration but I don't really think it makes a huge difference. One also has to balance weight/length/bulk with portability. Any difference in velocity, to me, is irrelevant.
  9. Trent

    Trent Resident Wiseguy

    HAHA! That had to have been quite a shock!

    It's too bad I have to work on servers afterhours tonight, or I'd be out shopping for a 44 right now.

    Which means I'll have to deal with the hordes of Saturday shoppers. :cuss:

    (I'm NOT a "people person"..)
  10. BCRider

    BCRider Well-Known Member

    I hear ya! A group of buddy's at the range or at any of my other hobby activities is one thing. A night club or crowded shopping mall is QUITE ANOTHER! ! ! !

    At least at gun stores MOST of the folks are more accurately classified as buddys that you simply haven't met yet... :D

    Some good points about hunting accuracy were given above. Plain irons is good for me out to around 50 yards if I'm aiming at a big enough target. Or a smaller target is fine if I can steady my hold against a table and bag or wrists against a handy tree.

    For hunting out to 100? And with the "pressure" to make it a clean hit and merciful kill? I'd be looking at guns which have the mount points for a scope. From Ruger that suggests the Hunter models of either the Super Redhawk or Super Blackhawk.

    To me hunting is a whole other issue. I would not want to rely on my own eyes and plain irons when it comes to taking the life of the game in the most painless possible way. That and the idea of tracking a wounded animal would tick me off. Besides, from what I've heard from hunter friends the meat is "off" in a wounded animal after a chase due to the adrenaline anyway.

    So my idea of what is only just OK for hunting would most certainly be overkill for range plinking.
  11. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Well-Known Member

    BC, I agree. It often takes mulitple guns to satisfy our shooting purposes. I don't plink with my 480 Ruger, but I guess I could if I wanted to pay the price. By the same token, I don't plink with a 44 mag or in my case, 41 mag. But I could.

    There is a difference between wanting to be able to hit something at 100 yds for fun and being able to hit something at 100 yds hunting. So shooting at normal ranges is one type of gun and shooting to 100 yds and beyond is likely to have other considerations placed on the choice of a firearm. Hammerdown77's point about accuracy is a good one also. I shoot and I never really know if it is "me" or the guns fault. I usually assume it is "me".

    This is pretty much why I tend to shoot 4" revolvers at normal ranges and longer barreled or larger caliber revolvers at longer ranges. It is fun, but it is a challenge which makes it more fun.
  12. urbaneruralite

    urbaneruralite Well-Known Member

    You'll want a double action for short range shots, because a deer can hear you cock the hammer on a SA. The ones you especially want to shoot are more apt to hear.

    If you're going to hit soda cans at 100 yards, you're probably going to entertain ideas about scopes and trigger jobs. That is S&W territory.

    If you're going to carry it, anything longer than 6" can get old. That's just my opinion, but if it won't carry on my hip, I skip it for a carbine.

    You don't need heavy recoiling loads. One can easily make a sound argument for using standard loads with 240gr XTPs and that's it. If you really need something stronger, you might consider a rifle as more appropriate.

    All that said, I'd get a 5.5" Redhawk and forget about scopes.
  13. Trent

    Trent Resident Wiseguy

    I tell you what, I had my Ruger SP101 357 out today. I'd been shooting 125gr golden sabers through it. But I bought a couple of boxes of 158gr American Eagle and decided to run them through today, before doing the NRA basic pistol qualifier with the gun.

    WOW those things pack a punch. Stepping up from 125 to 158 grain made a HUGE difference. I suddenly went from "357 is no big deal" to "OW OW OW OW OW"

    You know, I'm going to be man enough to admit that after two cylinders of that, I packed that 158 grain American Eagle ammo back up and went back to the 125 grain Golden Saber ammo.

    My thumb knuckle is still discolored.

    SOMETHING about that Ruger's fit to my grip started biting my hand - and hard - with the hotter ammunition.

    At the qualifier shoot tonight, I burned up the last of my Remington ammo. The web and knuckle of my thumb were still sore, and I shot like crap. Most of my rounds were in the A ring, but I was shooting a group 3x as large as I normally do with that gun, and had three flinch shots go WIDE left. I was a little disappointed with myself.

    So now, I have to ask... is the SP101's build anything like the Ruger 44 Mag? If so, that thing is gonna shatter my thumb knuckle if I shoot it.

    And, since you guys are all revolver nuts.. :) any advice on aftermarket grips for that Ruger that might solve my knuckle-biting problem?
  14. codefour

    codefour Well-Known Member

    I never experienced knuckle biting shooting my Redhawk .44 mag. My SP101 can bite too. They are different guns and frame styles.

    I love SA guns but the plow handle hurts with Magnum loads. I prefer the Bisley for magnum loads. My SBH Hunter Bisley is on order at my LGS.
  15. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Well-Known Member

    So you discoved the difference between 125 gr and 158 gr 357's. It was a surprise to me too years ago.

    The first time I shot my Ruger SRH in 480 Ruger, it ripped up the web of my hand with the hammer. It was one of those memorable moments... What's all this blood? Where is it coming from? Oh.... now I understand.

    Lowered my grip a little on that beast and now don't have a problem. But I do tend to wear a shooting glove now on that one hand. Have no idea if anyone experienced this with a 44 mag SRH.

    Normal loaded 44 mags are more. Just so you know.
  16. Trent

    Trent Resident Wiseguy

    I know I'm drifting my own topic here, but the grip on the SP101 is pretty small and I have big hands, I can't lower my hand down anymore than it. Is there anything else I could do? Short of wearing thick gloves when I shoot?

    This particular SP101 goes with me to work, I'll be packing 125's in it for the forseeable future. I don't think a bad guy is going to really care if he's hit with a 125gr or 158gr projectile. And, I know I can shoot those 125's accurately (and comfortably).

    I would imagine in a self defense or hunting scenario, I'm not going to even notice the recoil of whatever I'm shooting. Heck when I went turkey hunting last time, I stalked a bird to a stand of tall grass. When it bolted, and I shouldered that shotgun, I didn't notice either the sound, NOR the kick, when I dropped the hammer and put a load of shot through it's neck & head. (Wasn't wearing ears at the time).

    All I remember, and I remember it quite vividly, was the sight picture and the bird dropping in it's tracks.
  17. Captains1911

    Captains1911 Well-Known Member

    I'm a huge fan of the Ruger SRH. Here's mine chambered in .454. These things are built like tanks, and are easily scoped.

  18. bluetopper

    bluetopper Well-Known Member

    All this talk of Freedom Arms 44 Magnums and not a pic of one have I seen in this thread. Well here's mine. It's a Field grade, not one the beautiful Premier grades but she suits me fine.
    A 10 incher made for silhouette. I wasn't looking for one with a barrel that long when I was searching online. I bought it used and the barrel length has grown on me due mainly to its performance and groupings at 100yds with its superb iron sights. I found this a few years ago for sale on another gun forum in their classifieds. I offered the guy $900 and he took it. I contacted Freedom Arms and it was manufactured in 1990 and then sent to Hawaii to a dealer there.

  19. urbaneruralite

    urbaneruralite Well-Known Member

    Any reasonably heavy .44 will be more pleasant to shoot than a .357 SP101. It's not until you get into hot 300gr loads in something like a 4" N-frame that it get unpleasant like a small .357. .44 240gr target loads in a single-action are just plain fun. And you can take deer just fine with those provided you can shoot well enough and know how to find a deer with a light blood trail.

    BADUNAME2 Well-Known Member

    Smith 29, Blackhawks, Redhawks, Super 'hawks, Anacondas, Dan Wesson or the BFR, it's hard to choose a bad gun out of that bunch. All of them have their own talents, so you really just need to determine which best suits your purposes and tastes. Since you're talking about long range plinking and handgun hunting, rather than woods carry and bear duty, I'd focus on the large framed, long barreled guns that are built to be scoped, like the Super Blackhawk Hunter, and Super Redhawk, over the smaller lighter guns that are designed to be carried a lot and shot a little. Beyond that, it's a matter of taste. Which grip do you like the feel of? Do you prefer single or double action operation? Answer those questions, and you'll be well on the way to finding your gun.

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