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The 336 Club

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by AStone, Feb 24, 2007.

  1. chas08

    chas08 Well-Known Member

    While not a 336, my 1895 45/70 with an 18.5" barrel delivers a reasonable group at 100 yds. 1.25" rested on two sandbags under the foregrip and nothing in the rear but shoulder. I agree that the shorter barrels wont deliver the velocity that a longer barrel will. How important that is on game can be argued to death. However they are pure joy in dense cover. My 336 in .35 Rem will do about 1.5" with the Hornady LR ammo, and a little better with Winchester round nose. Both will do 3'' or under at 200yds with the shorter barreld 1895 being the tighter of the two. Neither are particularly impressive for paper, but plenty good enough for Whitetail shoulder.

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  2. Sheepdog1968

    Sheepdog1968 Well-Known Member

    My best grouping so far with LeverEvolution ammo in a 336 30-30 with 10 shots was 2" at 100 yards. I'm normally closer to a 3-4 MOA shooter so I was having a good day. It's quite likely there is still more accuracy in the rifle with that ammo than I can shoot.
  3. Sheepdog1968

    Sheepdog1968 Well-Known Member

    There are many posts above who are disinclined to chop such a beautiful firearm. A more moderate approach would be to have Marlin install a 336Y barrel and magazine tube on yours and send back the original barrel. These are catalog parts. That way, you can always convert it back to stock.

    Some others have advised against a 16.5" barrel. I have one that is 16.75" (I gave the smith a specification of 16.5" +/- 0.25"). It shoots fine and out to 200 yards POA/POI doesn't differ by more than 2 or 3". Can't tell you the velocity numbers as I haven't tested it. Based on numbers I saw from Jeff Cooper in the mid to late 90s, I bet I've lost on the order of 100 fps.
  4. jbr

    jbr Well-Known Member

    Love my 336! i will say this - Most of my shots come at 170-200 yards and at that range i have had considerable trouble killing deer (plural). Shot one large doe dead in the shoulder broad side - knocked her completely off her feet - after 5 seconds she got up and ran away and i never saw her again. - no blood trail to track. I switch to 30-06 and that has not happened again. I only bring this up because so many people think that the new ammo (hornady) has made this a 200+ yard deer rifle but my experience has not proven that.
  5. chas08

    chas08 Well-Known Member

    My brush guns wouldn't be my first choice in firearms if the shots where I currently deer hunt averaged 170-200 yds. Our average distance is more like 35-50 yds. I do shoot them off the 200 yd bench, so if the need arises, I feel confident I can do my part. I know both calibers (.35 & .45) will have enough energy to cleanly kill if it's in the boiler room. I love my Marlins, I'm just unsure of which one I love the most. :confused:
  6. mdauben

    mdauben Well-Known Member

    Yeah, its about 1/2 lb heavier, too. Still, I've got one on my wish list.
  7. chas08

    chas08 Well-Known Member

    Apparently not all Micro-Groove barrels dislike Hornady Leverevolution ammo. My 336 in .35 Rem seems to like them fine. Groups were shot from 100 yds from a vice-like shooting rest. One fouling round was fired prior to shooting the groups. The dirtier the barrel became, the tighter the grouping.

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  8. Sheepdog1968

    Sheepdog1968 Well-Known Member

    A couple of weekends ago I took my microgrooved 336 in 30-30 out and shot the LeverEvolution ammo through it and got a 2 inch ten round grouping. I normally don't shoot that well. So I know with that ammo it is at least capable of 2" groups at 100 yards.
  9. chas08

    chas08 Well-Known Member

    . Nothing at all wrong with that in a lever hunting rifle. I'd be pleased too.
  10. david58

    david58 Well-Known Member

    End of my Range Frustration

    Bought a 336 just at two years ago - RC, made in 1952. Ballard rifling, 4X Weaver scope I am sure was put on the rifle the day it was bought new. Well used, would not rate anything on the collector scale, but I love the patina and wear that is present on a well-used, well-cared-for, loved rifle. This gun really should belong to somebody's grandson, but it was my good fortune to pick it up for $275.00.

    But at the range, disturbing results. Couldn't group for fresh fertilizer on a good day. Thought I had a lemon.:banghead:

    Well, long story short, I have not been much of a scoped rifle shooter in my shooting years - almost all iron sights, most of the last 25 years muzzleloaders. I simply was letting the parallax get me - wasn't stickin' my cheek on the stock the same way ever time. Once i realized what I was doing (with the helpful counsel of a friend) I found that I have a shooter!:D

    Only got to shoot at 50 yards yesterday, due to time constraints and the need to sight in a new AR (sorry I mentioned that name in this forum....) so my wife could shoot it next weekend, but nice! Could cover my group with my thumb! In about 10 days I'll be back to the range, then to work at 100, and to try the Leverevolution stuff again.

    My biggest challenge is learning how to shoot a light rifle like this offhand. Not as heavy as my ML's, so doesn't have the weight and 40+" barrel to help it settle in. So, dang, I have to practice.:p

    Now, I need to get another, put em in the same safe, and hope they multiply! As long as they don't cross-breed with the AR.......
  11. AStone

    AStone Well-Known Member

    Great story, David. Thanks for sharing.

    (I confess that I thought you were going to end the story by saying that you took the scope off and made 1 ragged hole. :D )

    Please let us know what happens at 100.
  12. blarby

    blarby Well-Known Member


    Think I can get in ? ! ? !

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  13. AStone

    AStone Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the club, Blarby.

    Is that a 336W? New or had it for a while?

    Just a minor curiosity: why are those
    two rounds near the front of the stock carrier pushed up?

    No criticism, just curious.
  14. 336A

    336A Well-Known Member

  15. JustsayMo

    JustsayMo Well-Known Member

    336A, thanks for the link. OUTSTANDING article! Pretty much affirms what we've seen done on critters over the years - the 30-30 is very capable game gitter with ample expansion (.5" +) and deep penetration.
  16. AStone

    AStone Well-Known Member

    Great to see you, 336A. I'll echo Mo: outstanding article. Concise, well-written.

    And this:

  17. 451 Detonics

    451 Detonics Well-Known Member

    This was a winter time project, came to me with a badly repaired broken stock, no rear sight stripped out scope mount screws...basic basket case...

  18. Abel

    Abel Well-Known Member

    451, that would be a perfect rifle if you'd put on a real recoil pad. Otherwise a 10. Thanks for sharing.
  19. 451 Detonics

    451 Detonics Well-Known Member

    I am still figuring out what is going to be the best length of pull on that rifle. It will serve as a car gun and I will have to try with everything from a t-shirt to a heavy coat to get it right for all seasons. Once I figure it out I will likely add a good pad.
  20. blarby

    blarby Well-Known Member

    The two rounds that are "topped up" are my HD rounds...
    170 gr Cor-Lokt 5mm Bore HPs ( a personal creation )

    I keep em that way for easy grabbin.

    Yes, it is a 336W. Weaver see through rings, Prostaff 3-9X40.

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