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The human face of big-city murders

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Robert Hairless, Apr 18, 2008.

  1. Robert Hairless

    Robert Hairless Well-Known Member

    Those of us who recognize the need to take responsibility for protecting our lives, with guns if necessary, understand the human cost of not doing so. Good people die. But those who don't recognize that need or think that even a good police force can protect them might not really understand the real cost of what they advocate. Perhaps this CNN article, posted today, might help them.

    Of course it's their right to risk their own lives and the lives of their families. But they need to see why others have the right not to take those risks. We are not the murderers, the random killers of other people, or--as Barack Obama recently said--people who "cling" to guns "out of bitterness." We enjoy life, want it for ourselves and families, and we don't want bad people to take it away no matter what Mr. Obama's beliefs. Perhaps you will notice as you read the following article that minority people suffer most from being without the means or training to defend their own lives. Mr. Obama, and Mrs. Clinton too, do them a disservice.

  2. Poper

    Poper Well-Known Member

    Well written thoughts on a very good article. Thank you Robert.

    Not very "PC", is she?
    I, for one, appreciate that.

  3. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    [sarcasm] Just a coincidence, I'm sure. They're all poor, pitiful victims of society. [/sarcasm]
  4. Robert Hairless

    Robert Hairless Well-Known Member

    That's kind of you, Poper. Thank you. I found it an interesting artilce too and thought it worth sharing.
  5. KnightHawk67

    KnightHawk67 Well-Known Member

    Interesting blog, but I have a problem with including a police officer killing a guy in self defense . That's NOT a homicide! Perp stabs cop & cop has to kill him. Seems pretty straight forward to me. See March 28, 2008.
  6. Robert Hairless

    Robert Hairless Well-Known Member

    KnightHawk67, the March 28, 2008 entry doesn't seem like a homicide to me either, at least not from what she said. (I've posted that entry below, so others will know what you mean.)

    But I still think that her blog is useful in the ways I suggested and I wonder if you agree.

  7. ants

    ants Well-Known Member

    Homicide - The killing of one human being by another.

    Given the use of the word Homicide in the press and TV, it is hard for us to understand that homicide is not strictly murder. There is no implication that a crime has been committed. It can be by accident, negligence, intentional, or self defense.
  8. moewadle

    moewadle Well-Known Member

    +1 on Ants

    Homicide is the killing of one person by another. As so aptly said above, it is not necessarily murder.
  9. wally

    wally Well-Known Member

    Which why the anti's use the even broader category of "firearms deaths" for their numbers, which includes suicides (about half the total!) and accidents (pretty negligible) and homicides, with the implication they are all murders that would not happens didn't exist.

  10. Rule556

    Rule556 Well-Known Member

    Good article.


    In fact, there are four types of homicide--felonious, accidental, justifiable and praiseworthy. ;)
  11. wuluf

    wuluf Well-Known Member

    The Four Categories of Homicide

    Many people don't know there are four:

    Commendable :D

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