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The police shot the gun out of her hand?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by jsalcedo, Jul 26, 2005.

  1. jsalcedo

    jsalcedo Senior Member

    Dec 31, 2002
    Woman killed by police after chase
    League City, HPD officers shoot robbery suspect
    Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

    A 26-year-old woman accused of stealing beer from a League City convenience store was fatally shot by police Monday following an early morning chase through parts of three cities, authorities said.


    The woman was one of two suspected of robbing a store in the 1800 block of West FM 646 around midnight Sunday, said League City Police Lt. James Spencer. She was identified late Monday as Bridget Clare Dolan, of Pearland.

    A League City patrol officer spotted the women's dark-colored pickup at Texas 3 and Main Street. The officer tried to stop the truck as it headed west on Main, but the women sped off, Spencer said.

    The pair led League City and Houston officers on a chase that whipped through Webster and into Houston. In Webster, the truck stopped in a wooded area where police believe the passenger was dropped off. Police planned to review videotape from the convenience store for a description of the woman passenger, Spencer said.

    Eventually, Dolan stopped at an apartment complex in the 600 block of Barringer in Houston, where she ended up outside Yvette Gonzalez's door.

    Gonzalez said she heard the commotion and peered out her window and saw several police officers. She then heard her doorknob rattling.

    "She was trying to get in," Gonzalez said. "I looked out the peep hole and saw her (holding) a gun to her head."

    Gonzalez said she grabbed her infant son and fell to the floor.

    The officers were "yelling, 'Put the gun down! We'll talk to you! Put the gun down,' " Spencer said.

    Dolan's gun was shot out of her hand, but she picked it up and pointed it at the officers, he said. Houston police officer K.W. Rogers and League City police Sgt. P.R. Odin shot the woman several times, Spencer said.

    Dolan was taken to Ben Taub General Hospital, where she died.

    Rogers was placed on administrative duty, typical after shootings, while Odin is on paid administrative leave.

    It was the third shooting involving Houston police in a week.

    Michael Wayne Brooks, 41, was fatally shot at 3 a.m. Wednesday in the 9400 block of Richmond, while waving a .380-caliber semiautomatic handgun. Investigators said he was shot after he pointed the gun at officers.

    On Tuesday, a suspected thief was shot during an early morning confrontation with off-duty Houston police officer Noe J. Hernandez and the officer's father outside their homes in the 11700 block of Biscayne Way.

    According to police, Hernandez's father, Jaime Castilla Hernandez, 57, called 911 and his son, who lives across the street, after seeing three men breaking into a Ford Expedition in a neighbor's driveway. Noe Hernandez fired when one of the men pointed a weapon at him, police said. Two of the men fled in a minivan, leaving behind the third, who had been shot in the head, police said.


  2. Sindawe

    Sindawe Senior Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Outside The People's Republic of Boulder, CO
    It does happen now and them. I recall seeing video of a guy with a gun, sitting in a plastic chair while holding a gun, fending off the cops. A good shot took the gun out of the guys hand, destroyed the gun and allowed officers to take the guy into custody.
    Odin don't take kindly to having weapons pointed at him. :neener:

    Bummer the cops had to deal with the emotional trauma of taking a life, but from the data in the article, this woman was a train wreck from the get go. Fortunately she did not take anybody else with her.
  3. CAS700850

    CAS700850 Participating Member

    Jul 20, 2004
    Central Ohio

    I believe that thge incident you're referring to was in Columbus, Ohio, the shot taken by a sniper on one of their SWAT teams. Wish I had that video. BG was holding a revolver, threatening suicide. Officers offered him teh chair while they talked. He sat, and after a few minutes of talking, let the gun dangle between his knees. Sniper put a round into the cylander, blowing it out the other side. BG then arrested, without further violence.

  4. jefnvk

    jefnvk Senior Member

    Jun 3, 2004
    The Copper Country, Michigan
    I've seen it before, but it wasn't the one above. The officer shot the gun out of the guy's hand with his service pistol.

    It does happen.
  5. Lemon328i

    Lemon328i New Member

    Jun 14, 2005
    Poor policy

    It is not generally supposed to happen. Most police departments have policies in place that allow shooting only for center mass or the head when lethal force is necessary. It can easily be argued that if a police officer can shoot accurately enough to "disarm" an assailant, then they should always shoot the hands rather than center mass.

    This case might even lead to a civil suit as if they were able to shoot the gun out of her hand once, why didn't they do it again and thus not have to kill her?

    The League City police need a better lawyer to advise them.
  6. Cesiumsponge

    Cesiumsponge Senior Member

    Nov 6, 2004
    Seen that video too.

    Seems like they tried a less-lethal approach on the lady. It doesn't say if the firearm was rendered inoperable from the impact but she picked it back up and pointed it at police. By that time, they had no other choice.
  7. garyk/nm

    garyk/nm Member

    Dec 17, 2004
    New Mexico, USA
    She was holding the gun to her head and had it shot away? Methinks they were going for a head shot and pulled it just a little. Ooops. Better than a clean miss, anyway.
  8. LiquidTension

    LiquidTension Senior Member

    Jan 28, 2003
    That's what I was thinkin' gary.
  9. Ego Archive

    Ego Archive New Member

    Jul 20, 2005
    The thing that really gets me is the lady just on the other side of the door.

    At least she had common sense enough to get down.
  10. DonP

    DonP Participating Member

    Dec 25, 2002
    Chicago area
    The gun is usually the focus of attention

    One of my instructors said that this does happen with some frequency, but usually by accident.

    The officer is focused on the most immediate threat, the gun in the BG's hand, and with out realizing it when the adrenaline induced tunnel vision sets in shoots at the threat first.

    I'm pretty sure only the Lone Ranger, Roy Rogers and Gene Autry can do it regularly and as a matter of policy.
  11. waterhouse

    waterhouse Senior Member

    Jan 7, 2005
    Round Rock, TX
    The Discovery channel (or was it the History Channel) has a 4 part series on snipers, and one of the parts is on Law Enforcement/SWAT snipers. They show the video of the guy sitting in the chair, and then one of their sniper experts says "while this was a really good shot, I wish he hadn't taken it." Apparently now every time a police sniper has to shoot someone there is always someone else asking "Why didn't you just shoot the gun out of the hand like that one video of the guy sitting in the chair."

    As for focussing on guns instead of center of mass: I used to play water polo in college with a former SEAL. During winter break and part of the summer he still had to go help train the new guys coming through the system. He came back after one winter break and his right hand looked horrible, all black and blue. They apparently use some sort of paint ball type rounds to practice some drills, and he said it was quite common for the new guys to enter a room on a clearing excercise and immediately focus on his gun and shoot up his hand when he was playing "bad guy.".
  12. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
    I'll bet she won't rob any more inconvenience stores very soon.

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