This Makes Me Sick

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Skofnung,

As one of our illustrious former Presidents said, "Ah feel your pain." :)

Was your wife's Swiss Army Knife the kind with the evil "saw blade"? If so, no doubt the National Park Service was afraid that she might commit an act of terror by literally sawing the Statue of Liberty down with it! Those Swiss Army Knives are DANGEROUS -- didn't you get the memo???

Of course, with the current "liquid explosives" scare, the Park Service must be absolutely apoplectic knowing that the Statue is literally surrounded by liquid!!! Perhaps a plan to drain the harbor of all liquid is in the works, to deny the terrorists their new "weapon of choice" and keep us all safe.

Sadly, so silly.

Stay safe, stay free.
 
not saying its right or wrong, just saying it shouldn't have surprised anyone. It is a matter of safety, and for whatever reason, knives have been deemed a threat...or more likely, they just ban things across the board due to terrorism. Instead of getting divided as a country, if you don't like this, let's go get them terrorists and put them under and stay united.
 
Funny thing -- post 9/11, I went into a Washington, D.C. federal office building with a penknife attached to my keychain. I forgot to take it off beforehand, and didn't think about it until I was at the security station. I dropped my keychain into the little basket before going through the metal detector, and the guard looked at it. He didn't take the knife.

Also post 9/11, numerous times, I've been in a certain D.C.-area (Bethesda, Md.) federal office building that has no metal detectors or searches of any kind -- just a check-in desk where a rent-a-cop checks your ID. Interestingly, one time, a LEO was testifying at a hearing -- he was wearing his sidearm. I think I was the only one who noticed it. :rolleyes:
 
The feds are certainly not consistent. I was at the St. Louis arch recently (worth going to if you have never been there) and the metal detector showed my pocket knife, a 2.5 inch Gerber folding lock blade knife. The security guard looked at it, stated that since it was less than three inches long, it was no problem. But I was glad I left my S&W640 in the car, since I did not know that I would be passing through security at this attraction.
 
Having to give up your freedom to see one of the symbols of liberty in the USA... yeah, that sounds about right now-a-days.
 
The Statue of Liberty: A weapons-free zone

Which only means that Ellis Island will be the scene of another senseless act of violence.

The only question now, is when it will happen.
 
The object of terrorism is to try to force us to change our way of life, is to force us to retreat, is to force us to be what we're not. And that's -- they're going to fail. They're simply going to fail. I want to assure my fellow Americans that our determination -- I say "our," I'm talking about Republicans and Democrats here in Washington -- has never been stronger to succeed in bringing terrorists to justice, protecting our homeland. Because what we do today will affect our children and grandchildren. This is our calling. This is the time for us to act in a bold way, and we are doing just that.
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- George W. Bush, October 23, 2001

Yeah, right, nothing's changed in this country. Politicians should focus their "bold acts" on terrorists, not on US citizens. :fire:
 
Last Sunday, our preacher told the story of visiting the Smithsonian last month with his family. His 11 year old son forgot and had a nice folding knife with a 3" blade in his pocket and realized it when they were in line. The story was about our preacher trying to nonchalantly hide it in planters around the building. When they got out, he couldn't remember which planter he'd put it in. While searching, he thought he found it in a bush in the planter, pulled it out, and it was someone else's knife! (He did find his son's.)
It was funny to listen to, but I couldn't help thinking how foolish that we're taking such items from 11 year olds.
Wonder how much trouble our preacher would have gotten into if they had seen him hiding it!
 
Having to give up your freedom to see one of the symbols of liberty in the USA... yeah, that sounds about right now-a-days.
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If only the irony of the totalitarians were not so lost on them...

Oh, come on. What am I saying? They know fully well what they're doing. They're laughing about it every day--like the picture of the four marxists smiling and giving a thumbs up after voting for a gun-grab in the Senate. They know.
 
SHEEPLE, bah,bah,bah.......

I flew down to Texas a few years ago. On my was back after changing flights my pliers were confiscated. They were not needle nosed, they weren't sharp, you couldn't stab anyone with them. I didn't feel like arguing.The last time I saw pliers used as a weapon was by the 3 Stooges.
According to the US Constitution, if property is confiscated doesen't the Government have to compensate you, Didn't that Ballon from up in Taxachuttess, I mean Massachuttes make all of the TSA's Federal employes. So what about all of those 'contraband' items confiscated, where'd the loot ?
I wish I could steal with that much impunity. I'd rather be crammed in a T-38 then have to put up with the BS of commercial flying.
 
The feds fear those little knives

I had to go to the IRS office in the local federal building to get some tax forms for my church. I had one of those 2 1/4 inch swiss army knives on my key ring. As I put the keys in the basket, a guard said I couldn't bring it in. Also, no cameras are allowed in federal buildings, so I couldn't bring my cell phone in either. I had to walk back to my car in a public parking garage a few blocks away and leave the dangerous items. Blew my whole lunch hour.
 
BrassM they get away with it by calling it Voluntary surrender.


The whole point of all of this is that America has Changed since 9-11 and no one seems to understand that. At least no one in control.

There is no way that terr group is going to be able to pull something like 9-11 off again. Terrs try to stage an event at the Statue of Liberty and they are going to end hanging from the Torch. Americans will just say not on my watch,

There is not way any flight is going to get hijacked in the old sense. The passengers are no longer going to say, "oh yeah, it's just a detour to Havana". Time and time again, Americans have taken the situation into their own hands and dealt with incidents on their own. My wife was on a flight from Tampa to MSP this spring and when some guy who looked "middle eastern" started getting unruly and combative with a flight attendant, Four guys literally beat the S**t out of him and left him hog tied and gagged in the center Aisle of the aircraft, it took maybe one minute. Wife said it was, Guy stands up, yackity yackety yack two others stand up and grab him, another stands up and hit him in the head with a pop can, guy starts to get up and it was pig pile and end of story. all over in a few seconds, plane gave the guys a big ovation. . . not a word about it on the news when she landed.

I have heard of others like this. Two guys I know say they were flying from Hawaii to LA, some Philippino guy started something with the flight crew and he was literally tied and stuffed upside down in the latrine.

I have also heard some guys started to act funny on a flight from detroit to amsterdam, the pilot turned the seat belt sign on and basically did a three or four negative G move that put the Badguys on the roof Alot of people lost their lunch, but the morons ended up in a pile after bouncing off the roof.


I guarantee you that something happens at a big event and unless they drive a truck bomb into the stadium, any attempts to pull something off is going to result in a bunch of Americans saying ummm No, Not here, Not today.
 
Last year I was going to the Smithsonian with my wife's family. I had one of my knives in my pocket (Gerber with 3.5 inch blade) and my Leatherman on my belt. While in the line for the metal detector, I realized I might have a problem. I decided to just go ahead and see what happened. The alarm went off as I went through, but I did not react. I just kept walking while holding my kids. The security guard looked at me but didn't say anything. I kept right on walking, while trying to suppress a smirk.
 
I was in the Calgary airport and had forgotten my CRKT knife was in my backpack. They ran it three times through the xray machine because they couldn't believe someone would actually bring a knife like that to the airport. The guy was cool, but he told me they didn't even have a way for me to mail it to myself. I just had to turn it over. I was pissed, at myself mainly because I forgot. I never thought of snapping the blade off though. I wish I could have done that, but I guess he never would have given me the chance. He wouldn't even let me touch my bag until he had the knife out of it.
 
If a passenger had a gun, so would the BG's.
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sooooo......we ban guns then??????

BG will think of something, while we have nothing......"for security".:barf:
oh no wait we will have a federal agent in board, he will protect us. We couldnt do it ourselves O' Americans. The motherland will have someone to watch over us.

Remember.....Its only legit, right and good if it comes from Govt.:barf:
 
Blade or no blade, it's still a knife....

I never thought of snapping the blade off though.
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Even if it doesn't have a blade "it's still a knife!"

A few months ago I was flying home from Memphis immediately following a very long night of work. While wating in line at the security checkpoint, I noticed that I had forgotten to put my lockback utility knife--the kind that uses a disposable utility knife blade in my checked toolbox. I removed the blade and discarded in the nearest trash can, hoping they would allow me to keep the "holder" portion.

No such luck. The TSA supervisor said "but it's still a knife!" and I was forced to turn it over or not fly. They (TSA) were also espcially rude and unpleasant, and I was even threatend with arrest. In the end, they kept the $5 "knife" and I made it home.

Boneheads.
 
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