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This Will Make Your Blood Boil!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by ATBackPackin, Mar 19, 2013.

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  1. ATBackPackin

    ATBackPackin Well-Known Member


    Thankfully the father knew his rights. I cannot imagine how angry I would be if this happened to me. Things have gone way too far and that is all I will say for now.

  2. returningfire

    returningfire Well-Known Member

    What a damn country.
  3. SilentStalker

    SilentStalker Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I seen that yesterday on another forum I am a member of. Too bad you couldn't sue over some stupid junk like that. In case many of you don't know, this really isn't a free country, at least not anymore.
  4. Mayvik

    Mayvik Well-Known Member

    They can stop by a demand a Ferrari too...doesn't mean they are going to get one. So sorry, we're busy, try again when you have a warrant.

    BBQJOE Well-Known Member

    People shouldn't have to worry about these things, but in today's times, people are getting pretty stupid about what they post on FB and youtube.
    Anyone can and will read whatever they want into any post anywhere.

    Was it wrong to post a child with a firearm?
    Did he open himself up for problems? I'd say yes.
  6. I think some kind of procedural complaint could be lodged against the DYFS girl, as refusing to ID' herself is probably violating departmental procedure, and possibly the law. Asking an agent to identify themselves is one of the first things in establishing that you have any kind of bona fide reason for being there. Without credentials, the people on your doorstep may as well be robbers or assailants on a ruse.
  7. Blue Line

    Blue Line Well-Known Member

    I'd tighten up my privacy controls too, looks like one of thier Facebook friends ain't really a friend.
  8. Billy Shears

    Billy Shears Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but this is the wrong way to look at it. Dead wrong. Generations of American youths were introduced to firearms at a young age and taught to shoot by their parents or grandparents. My dad bought me my first rifle, a .22 Browning T bolt, when I was five. Of course, I was only allowed to handle it when he was around, but it was "mine." I had my first BB gun not long after that, and I was allowed to roam the neighborhood with it. This was a normal part of growing up in this country. There is nothing wrong with this.

    The whole attitude that "well he opened himself up to this," smacks of defeatism, and of yielding the argument to the antis that guns aren't appropriate for small children, even with strict and responsible adult supervision.

    Well, sorry, but I for one will not yield that point. Guns are appropriate for young shooters, when responsibly supervised. Moreover, it's necessary to introduce young shooters to the sport, inculcate enthusiasm for shooting sports into them, and get them used to living with and being responsible around guns, so that they can become responsible adults who will safeguard their rights under the second amendment, and feel a duty to do so.

    When stories like this come along, we need to push back hard. They need to think it's raining hammers. That kind of hard. It's the only way we'll ever retake the culture and stop the trend the antis have been promoting for decades to marginalize gun owners and reduce us to a fringe element, regarded with suspicion by the mainstream of society. For my money, that means not just publicizing it when overzealous government flunkies exceed their authority like this, but holding them accountable, and suing if there's ground for every abuse that rises to a sufficient level.
  9. ClickClickD'oh

    ClickClickD'oh Well-Known Member

    Lol, and he's a NRA Instructor with his lawyer on the phone. They might want to never come back..
  10. Doc Samson

    Doc Samson Well-Known Member

    Agreed! There was nothing in that picture to suggest ANY type of abuse, neglect, or misconduct as a parent. Dad responded very appropriately...
  11. 12many

    12many Well-Known Member

    that is the problem with many people in the gov. (and society in general) There is no respect for other peoples rights and apparently not enough intellegence to know better. Trouble is the gov. people act as if they have authority and appear to have authority to do these things. Plus, there are no ramifications or consequences for bad behavior.

    It is getting more and more like the book 1984. Unacceptable thoughts or actions that violate the 'moral rules' or allowable thoughts and armed men in armor show up at the door. It is scary to see the extent to which certain people in government use the police and their intimidation (armed with weapons) to enforce their societal preferences (no kids with guns pictures), when no law has been broken. This reflects badly on the police, who have a tough job dealing with read bad people, but are often now used as pawns to enforce the liberal agenda. This is why rural sherrifs and police are speaking out against gun bans because they are tired of being tasked with this BS.
  12. armoredman

    armoredman Well-Known Member

    Call CPS on me, now.


    My son on the Christmas morning that he received his first rifle, a CZ 452 Scout .22lr. It is stored in my safe, though he keeps the range bag in his room. Oh wait, that's probably not juicy enough...


    There he is, eleven years old, firing a 5.56mm SA vz-58 on the range, real Modern Sporting Rifle, real ammo, real targets, real safety, and he really had a blast, pun intended.

    Bring 'em on. Good on that NJ dad for knowing his rights, and standing up for them.
  13. 12many

    12many Well-Known Member

    when I was younger it was considrered bad parenting if you did NOT teach your kids about guns, gun safety, and how to use them properly.
  14. Bubbles

    Bubbles Well-Known Member

  15. sansone

    sansone Well-Known Member

    ^^ this ^^
  16. thunder173

    thunder173 Well-Known Member

    Sounds like a typical idiot reaction from some local NJ Popo's and knee jerk tactics common in the Trenton and Burlington County area. Left Jersey in 1991. Never looked back.
  17. ATBackPackin

    ATBackPackin Well-Known Member

    The article did state that the father said the police were professional and were only there at the request of DYFS. My biggest problem is with her absolute refusal to show her credentials and the running away when the father tried to take her picture. Why would a government agent act like that???
  18. mdauben

    mdauben Well-Known Member

    Because she knew she had no authority or legal justification for what she was doing and did not want to give him evidence that could come back and be used against her?
  19. Twmaster

    Twmaster Well-Known Member

    Absolutely sickening.

    What would the results have been if the police and that social worker had managed to get into the safe??

    I'm sick of the misuse of power by these petty dictators.


    When I grow up I want to be an anti-social worker.
  20. InkEd

    InkEd Well-Known Member

    I would not have even let them in the door.
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