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Time to fire up the militia. What's it going to look like today?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by maestro pistolero, Aug 12, 2008.

  1. maestro pistolero

    maestro pistolero Well-Known Member

    And not some half-baked, fringe element for the liberals to throw eggs at, either. I'm talking the real deal here. Well regulated, well trained, well armed, and legitimate.

    Once organized, trained, and equipped, this militia could place itself voluntarily, at it's own discretion, in the temporary service of the organized militia in times of real national emergency, or when the National Guard's resources and goodwill are being over taxed and overburdened like in the middle east right now.

    Perhaps the training and discipline could be undertaken with the help of recently retired or even active duty military volunteers or LE trainers.

    Should there be standardized training?

    There should be a spirit of cooperation with government authority, but a clearly delineated and stated autonomy as to the manner and means of operation.

    There could be a charter, a mission statement, and high standards of excellence that are self-imposed. There should be a transparent and fair system of purging bad eggs, or those who can be proven to have bad intentions or improper behaviour that would threaten the credibility and efficacy of the Militia.

    What standards should we hold ourselves to?

    How do we balance independence and autonomy, with a spirit of cooperation and common training so that we could be as effective as possible in working together to support our police and military in the event of a cataclysmic world event?

    What other attributes should our new militia have?
  2. Jdude

    Jdude Well-Known Member

    If the militia were called up, it would be on an as needed basis with likely no more than a few hours or day's training. I figure squad level elements will be under the control of retired soldiers / local LE, with the sheriff being the head honcho. More than likely they will be used for local security and harassment actions while the standing Army does all of the real work.

    I also suspect that the majority of arms will be privately owned, and thus mostly scoped deer rifles from the hunters and ARs from the paper punchers. (Note - I know there is crossover. Generalizing here.) There will probably be ammo shortages and general equipment mismatch.

    That is all that comes to mind in this short post.
  3. yokel

    yokel Well-Known Member

    Who's going to bother showing up for militia duty?

    I reckon that the folks would be mostly concerned with ensuring their own self-preservation and protection of their loved ones and businesses.

    In order to meet contemporary war fighting capability and readiness requirements, we're going to need a significant armament upgrade package.
  4. whosyrdaddy

    whosyrdaddy Well-Known Member

    It'll look just like you imagine 'cause the only place it's ever going to happen is in your imagination.
  5. Drgong

    Drgong Well-Known Member

    maestro pistolero, check out how the swiss do there militia, cool stuff ;)
  6. Nolo

    Nolo Well-Known Member

    Want to start a militia?
    It's been done. In this country, no less.
    And recently.
    In fact, I think it's a rising tide.
    Honestly, if I were to organize a militia, I'd organize it around the principles of the Boy Scouts, without all the fluff needed for pre-teens and modified for a military force.
    For instance, here (for those unfamiliar) is the Boy Scout Oath and Law, if I remember correctly:
    Honestly, I think these would be an excellent for to follow for a credo of an militia.
    Update it and make the wording and style more mature, along with some of the points (I see "obedient" as being kinda inappropriate, for instance), and you'd have something.
  7. DFW1911

    DFW1911 Well-Known Member

    Using the Revolution as context.

    I agree: see the history of the Minute Men for a point of discussion. Once the reality of a protracted military campaign became evident many "opted out" to do precisely what Yokel suggests.

    Like it or not, during the Revolution our "professional army" was mainly comprised of the dregs of society - those who saw "soldiering" as an opportunity for advancement.

    I don't recall the specifics, but I believe those who signed "for the duration" received 100 acres, or some such amount, upon conclusion of hostilities.

    Those more informed will add their $.02.

    Good topic for conversation.

  8. SFvet

    SFvet Well-Known Member

    Anyone with a firearm is considerd the unorganized milita. Local people get together and train all the time - many are prior service. Standardization (well organized) can be simple formations under prior service leadership headed by the local authorities.

    Want to get some extra training? The National Guard sometimes use volunteers to be a part of training events.

    Firearms can be any hunting rifle, battle rifle etc. Now to keep this discussion within regs lets make sure we are discussing firearms along the way ;). I would use my AR-10 A2 Carbine hehe.:cool:
  9. neviander

    neviander Well-Known Member

    As far as entry goes, I would wholly base that on the persons spirit. I realize that's hard to judge, but in the right persons view, it's hard to fake as well. Halfheartedness need not apply.
  10. telecaster1981

    telecaster1981 Well-Known Member

    It'll look a lot like the folks in my cell phonebook!

    "Hey ____, the S is hitting the F. My place...15 minutes...be there or be square..."
  11. bobbarker

    bobbarker Well-Known Member

    Obedient should DEFINATELY be kept in, if you're using the boy scout method. Obedience is one of the most important aspects of Military action.

    And, I would report to Militia duty. Best way to keep your family and loved ones safe is to get together with other people who want to keep THEIR families and loved ones safe. 20 guys can kill a few hundred if those few hundred are killed individually. Put them all together, and it takes a lot more than 20.
  12. Nolo

    Nolo Well-Known Member

    Maybe it's just because I'm Irish (;)) but I envision the purpose of the militia as a little less obedient and more independent than military forces.
    But maybe that would only be important if we were another country like maybe Germany, because from what records I've looked over, American soldiers are MUCH more independent than other nations'.
    I dunno, I just like doing things my way. :D
  13. Nolo

    Nolo Well-Known Member

    Here's my militia version:
    Comments? Suggestions?
  14. chris in va

    chris in va Well-Known Member

    That's how I see it as well. The National Guard is not the same as the 'militia' and shouldn't fall under military/LE control. Our country has checks and balances, and the militia's purpose IMO is to make darn sure our .gov doesn't turn into a dictatorship.
  15. Nolo

    Nolo Well-Known Member

    At least I'm not alone... :D
  16. Nolo

    Nolo Well-Known Member

    Who doesn't?
  17. bogie

    bogie Well-Known Member

    The "militia movement" started back in the mid 90s when more and more gun control was showing up. Seems a few old boys read that there constitution thing, and figured that if they declared themselves to be a militia, then Unca Sugah would have to let them have their guns...

    Sad thing is, a whole buncha those boys was backwoods cracker rednecks who were either kluckers, or who had been rejected by the kluckers...

    Which is kinda sad, when you consider it...

    Anywho, they made a lot of noise.
  18. akodo

    akodo Well-Known Member

    everyone gets to decide that by themselves, which is what freedom is about.

    once you have a set of rules and regulations, guidelines, weapon restrictions, it becomes another one of the "organized militias"
  19. MT GUNNY

    MT GUNNY Well-Known Member

    I think the longest running Militia and still running today is the Minutemen. You know the ones on the southern border.
  20. danweasel

    danweasel Well-Known Member

    The Black Panthers were a militia right? They patrolled their streets when the goverment wouldn't or couldn't. Worked out pretty well for 'em I hear.

    I am just saying the government does not like armed societies organizing and training. Maybe they get nervous? I guess they feel if you wanna do that you should join the army and waste your good deeds in some foreign country for "questionable" reasons.

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