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Today I open carried for the first time

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by Sergei Mosin, Dec 12, 2012.

  1. Sergei Mosin

    Sergei Mosin Well-Known Member

    Have given a lot of thought to open carry in recent months. Sort of went back and forth on it - philosophically I have no objection to it, but some of its proponents seem to do it for the attention, which isn't what I want. It's legal here, but it's out of the ordinary and I live in town, where it might disturb people. I don't want to disturb people - just not my style.

    But this week I received a very nice OWB rig from Simply Rugged in which to carry my GP100, and while I intended that rig primarily for woods/trail/hiking duty, I was itching to wear it, and it wasn't cold enough to need a coat today. So I put it on and away I went.

    Visited Cabela's, the grocery store, and the local Chinese restaurant, and I am pleased to report that there was no panic, no MWAG calls, and I'm not sure anyone even noticed. Which was nice.
  2. wgp

    wgp Well-Known Member

    Cabelas in Kansas has a sign at the door that is a bit vague but indicates open carry is not permitted in the store, only carry by persons "who intend to keep their weapon concealed." We are having other businesses post their property as open carry prohibited, concealed carry allowed.
  3. Sergei Mosin

    Sergei Mosin Well-Known Member

    The Cabela's here used to have a similar sign, but it disappeared some time ago. My understanding is that their corporate policy is to adhere to local laws with no additional restrictions, so you might visit with their manager and/or write a letter to corporate HQ.

    HEAVY METAL 1 Well-Known Member

    Concealed carry is ok w/ them. It is on their website.
  5. Apachedriver

    Apachedriver Well-Known Member

    From Cabelas website under FAQ's:

  6. 2wheels

    2wheels Well-Known Member

    Yup, generally nobody even seems to notice the few times I OC.

    The few people who have noticed obviously haven't cared enough to call the cops.

    As much as people argue over it online, in the real world it just isn't that big of a deal. And if someone does freak out, as long as you keep a cool head you'll be just fine. My buddy had the cops called on him once for OCing, in the end it was the anti-gun woman who almost got cited for making a false police report.
  7. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Well-Known Member

    I think there are two sides to the idea.

    We as a gun community have the responsibility to change people's perceptions about our rights. We should not be ashamed of our rights. We should hold our rights with the same regard that Rosa Parks held hers. We don't have to explain why we exercise our rights.

    However, the other side of the coin, is that we shouldn't be stupid about it either. I can legally open-carry anywhere I can carry concealed. In Utah this includes my kids' school. DOESN'T MAKE IT A GOOD IDEA. I won't win any friends or make a positive difference by wearing a gun to school. I can walk down 400 South in Salt Lake, past all the coffee shops. Not a great idea. There are a lot of people who are completely oblivious to our gun laws. While we have pretty much rolled everything we wanted to through the legislation (constitutional carry is next,) there were a lot of people who just had no reason to care or show up and complain. I don't want to give them a reason if they didn't already have one.

    My general guideline is that if I am gearing up to do outdoor activities, hunting or riding the ATV, I put on whatever holster and gun I am taking. If I stop for gas or whatever, I don't bother to change. Of course, I am already on the outskirts of the terra-formed zone already, no one really cares. One time, on the opening morning of the deer hunt in Monticello, in the SE corner of Utah, I went into a convenience store with it on my belt, and one guy said; "I hope he has a permit for that." I am guessing he was from out of town, and I didn't even look at him. that is the only comment I have ever had.
  8. md2lgyk

    md2lgyk Well-Known Member

    Though OC is legal here in WV, I've never seen anybody doing it. I've been debating whether or not to give it a try. But I live in the Eastern Panhandle - too many MD and VA transplants here who might not "get it."
  9. coolluke01

    coolluke01 Well-Known Member

    I OC'd once when Starbucks was being boycotted over their policy.

    For me, I don't OC because I don't like to draw attention to myself. I should say, that I don't think I should want to draw attention to myself. I'm by no means a wall flower. For me, I can see how I may want to OC for the attention, so I don't on purpose.

    I also have an issue with causing a stir or eliciting a negative response from people. I don't think everyone that is upset by the sight of a gun in public calls the cops. We may be doing damage for our PR that we don't realize.

    Now, many will say that we need to OC to retain our right. That's BS. OC has been legal in MN for a very long time. No one really realizes it though. This law is not in danger in the slightest and OC'ing is just going to draw negative attention to it.

    Someday I may OC a pretty gun. My SS GP100 with a nice holster might be an option, but I really see no benefit over CC my Glock 26.
  10. mgmorden

    mgmorden Well-Known Member

    I kinda wish SC had open carry but only as a failsafe. I am absolutely paranoid about my jacket or shirt getting caught in the wind or just shifting so that my gun (carried IWB) is visible either briefly or until I adjust.

    In open carry states that's generally not a problem as if the weapon becomes visible then you're basically open carrying (even if for a few seconds) until it becomes concealed again. Here if someone catches a brief glimpse of the weapon then you're breaking the law (granted, most cops around here seem fairly gun friendly, but still).

    This concern is still why my LCP has always remained my go-to carry gun, usually pocket carried.
  11. krupparms

    krupparms Well-Known Member

    As I advocate OC, I carry every day that way. I have had police stop me, but that was because they were unsure of the law! Most citizens who stop me ask if it's leagle. When I tell them it is leagle most give a thumbs-up &say they will do the same. Some ask about registration &I let them know they don't have to here. I have only had one negative response &after talking with them they changed their mind. Some see OC as negative but I see it as an chance to let people see that open carry is leagle &NO ONE IS being hurt by it. JMO.
  12. dbp

    dbp Well-Known Member

    I am also in SC and was wondering if the scenario that you put forth about someone getting a glimpse of your gun would constitute a violation of SC gun laws. Have any of you other guys in SC had this happen or heard of this situation with others? If so, what was the outcome?
  13. beatledog7

    beatledog7 Well-Known Member

    The only place where OC is common where I circulate (VA) is in gun stores, and then only with the employees. Seems they pretty much all OC pretty much all the time, which makes sense given the nature of their employer's business and their role in it.

    I've done it a few times with barely a second glance from anyone. I even OC'd a 5-1/2" Redhawk on my hip once (remember Starbucks appreciation day?). The only person who indicated in any way that she noticed was the cashier, who smiled and said she'd seen a lot of people carrying guns that day and that she thought it was awesome.
  14. Skribs

    Skribs Well-Known Member

    I partly wonder if the reason you don't see it a lot is because you're not looking for it. I'm not looking at the hips of most guys I walk by, for example. I've seen it once or twice where I live, but not very often.

    Personally, I'm in the boat behind the OP, in that I've wrestled with the idea, but haven't OC'd yet, although for different reasons. I've come to the realization that OWB is significantly more comfortable than IWB, and when I stop wearing a jacket, I'll be OCing.
  15. Clipper

    Clipper Well-Known Member

    For about the last 4 years, the only time I CC is when I'm wearing a coat. I look at it as a educational experience for the general public. They see an average guy OCing, and doing the same average stuff they do. I think it's a positive thing for the gun community for them to see it. I've never had a negative experience with it, and several very positive ones.
  16. NavyLCDR

    NavyLCDR member

    I open carry all the time. I have open carried in places like downtown Seattle, SEA-TAC International Airport, and on school property when picking up or dropping off my daughter. On most days I have no encounters at all relating to my gun. When I do have encounters, 95% are positive. Of the 5% that are negative, all but one of those have been from concealed carry only snobs who just can't resist the urge to tell me they carry their gun concealed and I should too.

    I open carry because if the criminal sees my gun and decides that it is just easier to wait 5 minutes for me to leave, or go down the street one block and choose one of the remaining 99.5% of the population without the visible means to kill them to attack, then I have spared myself and my family the trauma of a criminal attack, self defense shooting and possible court case. Of course, I will never know if my goal has been accomplished because I doubt any criminal will come up to me and tell me they are passing on me as a victim.
  17. Skribs

    Skribs Well-Known Member

    Really? Why is that?

  18. BlindJustice

    BlindJustice Well-Known Member

    I had permission from my Dad, carried open S&W Model 18 4" bbl on
    the family farm 320 acres in central wash. state. in my teens in the
    '60s - cottontail rabbits and rattlesnakes mostly

    Always took it off & put it in the glovebox when
    driving to town

  19. BYJO4

    BYJO4 Well-Known Member

    I don't care for open carry as I don't want to call attention to myself nor do I want to arouse more ill feelings from those who don't want any type of carry.
  20. Delford

    Delford Well-Known Member

    NC is an open carry state but in its largest city, Charlotte, it wouldn't be a good practice in the downtown area because of other security concerns. I have seen it in the suburbs in a casual restaurant and people showed little concern. Any holstered gun in view on a casually dressed citizen isn't a precursor to a robbery, whereas a poorly dressed person with a gun in his belt might draw some serious attention.

    Judging from the attendance at my CC class and the continued high attendance at subsequent classes I'd say there are a lot of folks in Charlotte carrying concealed, many of them females living in transitional areas between high crime and normal neighborhoods. Open carry in some areas of the city might be an invitation for others to try and take it away.

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