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Took two Chinese guys shooting

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Rosstradamus, Jun 10, 2008.

  1. Rosstradamus

    Rosstradamus Well-Known Member

    Two men from my company's assembly plant in Shenzhen, China visited the office this past week. Call them Ming and Ping. Ming is from the mainland. Ping is originally from Taiwan. Once the workweek ended my coworkers Bud and Jack invited them to go shooting at the private gun club where Bud is a member. Ming and Ping accepted at once. Since I did such a good job with the visitors from Large Japanese Conglomerate in January, I was once again the photographer.

    While he and I waited in the dining room for the others to arrive, Bud pointed out the doctor who performed Historical Figure's autopsy and another guy who is the reigning world champion at something or other involving a shotgun. Very swank. I could smell the money from the parking lot.

    Ping had done a mandatory two years in the army back in Taiwan and was somewhat familiar with firearms although he complained about being restricted to a BB gun in China. Ming had never been shooting before. After a safety and nomenclature lesson from Jack, we went to one of the club's many skeet stations. Jack gave them a lesson, explaining how to stand, how to hold the gun properly, how to track the clay, and so on. Ming and Ping picked it up pretty quickly. Using Bud's 20 gauge Beretta, Ming hit three in a row once, then four in a row. Not bad for his first time even holding a gun. Ping had plenty of hits too.

    After about an hour and half of shotgunning, we went to the pistol range. Bud had brought a Glock 23 (.40 caliber) and a 1911 (.45 of course). I brought my Browning Hi-Power (9 mm). Bud gave a pistol demonstration, then turned it over to our guests. Ping picked it up pretty quickly. Ming was shooting low at first, but he got better as he went along though and was soon hitting just under the bull. We then had them each shoot a target "for the record" to take with them. We had also swiped a couple of clays from the skeet range for them to take home.

    I then took photos of Ming and Ping posing with the pistols. Ping had a smile a mile wide on his face. As Ming posed with a Glock in one hand and a 1911 in the other he yelled, "FBI!" Yes, I know holding a Glock and a 1911 at the same time is like bringing matter and anti-matter together, but we were smashing conventions at every step. By the way, everyone preferred my Hi-Power to Bud's Glock and 1911. Even Bud.

    All those people who always advise starting a beginner off with a .22 should note that neither Ming nor Ping had ever shot a pistol before, and we started them off with a .40 and immediately went straight to a .45 after that. They did fine. Neither one said a peep about the recoil or the noise. They just rolled with it. I corrected the positioning of Ming's left hand (he kept grabbing his wrist) but otherwise they both fell into natural stances and shot pretty well, especially Ping. He could put five shots in an area the width of a softball from seven yards, no problem.

    I had brought a selection of rifles with me, figuring Ming and Ping would like to pose with them, even though we wouldn't be shooting them. When I asked Ming if he'd like to see them, he asked if he could have his picture taken holding one. Did I have him pegged or what? He and Ping each posed with an AR-15, an FAL Para and an M1 Garand. Ming was beaming. While holding the AR-15, Ping said no one back in China would believe it was a real rifle. They'd insist it was an airgun or toy.

    The irony of two men from what I still catch myself calling Red China posing for pictures with the premier Western arms of the twentieth century - and enjoying it so - was making it difficult for me to concentrate on my photography.

    Ming said, "You are lucky in Texas. You can have guns." He said that two or three times. He asked me lots of questions about gun ownership. How many can you own? Do you need a permit? He was well and truly bitten by the shooting bug and wanted to know everything.

    Someone remarked that now everyone at the factory will want to come visit.

    Don't ask me to post pictures. I don't have Ming or Ping's permission, and I doubt the wisdom of showing their faces in any case. The PRC is still a communist dictatorship, and I don't want to take chances with someone else's life.
  2. H088

    H088 member

    Hey thats cool, its up to the people in America to make sure that right of its citizens to keep fire-arms never gets destroyed.
  3. orionengnr

    orionengnr Well-Known Member

    Great post.
    Great job.

    You are an ambassador for the US and for the shooting sports.
  4. General Geoff

    General Geoff Well-Known Member

    Those who don't have the freedom to do something tend not to take it for granted when they can.

    It seems like an interesting trend with foreigners and guns.
  5. Picard

    Picard Well-Known Member

    Awesome job. Score two more for the team. Keep em coming!
  6. siglite

    siglite Well-Known Member

    I agree with orionengnr. Great ambassadorship. I do not often have the chance to introduce foreigners to shooting. However, I try to do my best to be as good an ambassador as you have, right here in the US with antis or neutral folks.
  7. ByAnyMeans

    ByAnyMeans Well-Known Member

    good job, it never hurts to have more on our side no matter what country they live in.
  8. 3KillerBs

    3KillerBs Well-Known Member

    Wonderful story.
  9. bandur60

    bandur60 Well-Known Member

    I've gotten to do similar introductions with several college acquaintances of my daughter, most notable were two from Germany. She was a 4-H shooter, but interest went down when away for school. Her explanation/attitude to them was, "Dad will probably think you would like to go shooting while you're there, so you can humor him if you want." IF THEY WANT???? You know what a ****-eatin' grin is? What you get after some familiarization and they pull off a full mag in an AR-15 and turn around to look at you after it's empty!

    I'll get to do it again next month
    when she and her BF/fiance from Germany are here; I've spoken with him but we've not met yet. Air rifle---> air pistol---> .22 rifle---> pistol--> .223 bolt rifle, then he can go on from there if he wants. But I'm betting he won't be bored, whatcha think?

    I don't think any of them had/have ever shot anything before (maybe airguns,) and I'm just plain tickled to be the one who gets to "introduce" them.
  10. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Like curiosity, freedom is infectious.
  11. ZombieHunter

    ZombieHunter Well-Known Member

    That's an awesome story. I especially enjoyed all the descriptions of people...those really made me laugh. :)
  12. Hk91-762mm

    Hk91-762mm Well-Known Member

    wan shang hao .Ni hao Ma -!!!
    Your story is wonderfull!
    I am setting in a 5 Star hotel in Nanning china and My fiance is telling our dinner mates That I own GUNS..WOoooo The look on there faces -YOU own guns ---Why Yes I do many.. Oh you are so lucky they said ..[ Every person at the table is a party member Including my fiance ]
    I told them When You come visit us I will take you all out shooting . I was greeted with Much happiness and good feelings .
    My Fiance -Now wife was tought to shoot an SKS in college .
    As to starting them with 22 --NNaaa My wife is Impervious to recoil and her friends are too. Muzzle blast is another thing Make shure they have Muffs and ear plugs .
    I have tossed about the idea of retireing to china and securing the rights to open a TRAP shooting Range -catering to the Now up comming and rich chinese Eleate. I do beleave it could be done.
    We have many Friends who are from china and almost all of them like the shooting sports And all are happy to have someone take them to the range .
    Heres a pic of my favorite commie Party member :)
    Zia jian!
  13. Orthonym

    Orthonym Well-Known Member

    Cute gal, nice grin.

    I must, however, ask you how many synthetic leopards died in the making of that picture!

    P.s. Glad to see that she understands Rule 4.
  14. Orthonym

    Orthonym Well-Known Member


    Rule THREE, dammit. Preview is my friend, preview is my friend...
  15. Kind of Blued

    Kind of Blued Well-Known Member

    The synthetic leopards joke made up for your short-lived error. ;)

    Excellent story! It makes me proud to be one of the Americans who is aware of his freedoms, enjoys exercising them, and does something to preserve them.
  16. thegriz

    thegriz Well-Known Member

    It sounds like the 1st line of a joke. Really.

    This is a great thread and kudos to you for taking those guys shooting and sharing your story. So many people love shooting and just don't know it yet!

    It's fun to be the one who gives them the opportunity to find out.
  17. CountGlockula

    CountGlockula Well-Known Member

    Great job!

    We should be very fortunate to live in this country.
  18. MD_Willington

    MD_Willington Well-Known Member

    The Chinese engineers I work with all took mandatory training with a SKS rifle, a couple were trained on the Type 56 AK.

    One of them wants to go out shooting with us next time we all go, I suggested we go to the indoor range in Idaho.
  19. Professor Gun

    Professor Gun Well-Known Member

    A few years ago we had some Japanese physical therapists here for a three day course. Apparently the moment they arrived they started asking where the gun range was. Because I was known to have guns, I was asked to take them out shooting.

    There were 6 of them, two spoke fluent English. I took along a couple of friends familiar with guns to help out on the range. We started with .22 pistols and worked our way up, lots of smiles all around and lots of pictures with the guns and during shooting. When I brought out the .44 magnum S & W, several of those who were not good with English immediately exclaimed "Dirty Harry" with big smiles on their faces. Then everyone had to pose with the "Dirty Harry" gun. Despite lack of experience with guns, all were very safety conscious and aware. We all had a great time.
  20. 06

    06 Well-Known Member

    Bet they would go "ga ga" over the Casulls and 50s out now. wc

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