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Type 4 malfunction question

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by brekneb, Apr 30, 2008.

  1. brekneb

    brekneb Well-Known Member

    So, I think this question is fairly simple:
    What are the causes of a type 4?
    I've only heard of these reasons; over-sized bullet, overly-tight fittings of the weapon itself.
  2. AndyC

    AndyC Well-Known Member

    Never heard of malfunction types being identified by numbers - news to me.
  3. scrat

    scrat Well-Known Member

    Same here not too sure
  4. The Lone Haranguer

    The Lone Haranguer Well-Known Member

    I vaguely remember a gun writer/instructor (I want to think Chuck Taylor...?) classifying malfunction types by numbers, calling them Position (or P for short) One, Two and so on. It is not common usage.

    I am guessing this refers to a failure to go completely into battery? I actually did have a round with a bulged case, and the prescribed remedy (hitting the back of the slide to force it) only made it worse, wedging it in tighter.
  5. brekneb

    brekneb Well-Known Member

    I think if it's not referred to in numbers then it's along the lines of: "failure-to-go-into-battery". Which is considered a type 4.
  6. RNB65

    RNB65 Well-Known Member

    It's better than a type 5 but worse than a type 4. Count on it.

  7. brekneb

    brekneb Well-Known Member

    What's a type 5?
  8. CypherNinja

    CypherNinja Well-Known Member

    • Wrong caliber
    • Oversize bullet
    • Oversize/bulged case
    • Overly rough or overly tight surfaces on firearm
    • Cartridge nose dived into feed ramp (yay 22s)
    • Foreign object in chamber or barrel
    • Bullet from previous squib or FTF lodged in barrel

    Thats all I can think of, off the top of my head. The last two run a pretty dang serious risk of a Kaboom.

    Whenever I experience one of these, I always make ABSOLUTELY SURE I know which one it is. Not only because of the imminent, serious risk of the last two, but also because of problems that may arise from the others.
  9. RNB65

    RNB65 Well-Known Member

    One less than a type 6.


  10. bogie

    bogie Well-Known Member

    Some folks feel obligated to think WAY too much.

    If it doesn't work, clear it.

    If you can't clear it, make it safe.

    If you can't make it safe, start worrying.
  11. brekneb

    brekneb Well-Known Member

    I've never heard of a type 5 what are some causes?
  12. The Lone Haranguer

    The Lone Haranguer Well-Known Member

    Most of these instances can be avoided by simply paying attention. There is no reason to have a faulty cartridge jam up your weapon if you visually inspect it before loading it. (Yes, this happened to me as detailed in my previous post, but I learned from it.) Just a quick glance for obvious problems is sufficient in most cases (pun intended). As for "overly rough or tight working surfaces on the firearm," this is a faulty firearm that needs repaired.
  13. bogie

    bogie Well-Known Member

    Nope. It's an AR-15...
  14. Kind of Blued

    Kind of Blued Well-Known Member

    Hoplohypochondria? :neener:

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