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U.S. House, D.C. Council Wrestle Over Gun Control

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by camacho, Sep 17, 2008.

  1. camacho

    camacho Well-Known Member

    My favorite one: "I implore the Congress to give this body, this mayor and this city an opportunity to find a solution," said D.C. Council Chairman Vincent C. Gray (D), moments before the council voted without debate to end storage requirements for firearms and permit ownership of semiautomatic handguns."

    Well, you had your chances buddy, you've had decades to find a solution. Too late now!

  2. usmarine0352_2005

    usmarine0352_2005 Well-Known Member

    I'm at work and that's a lot to read, but tell me if I'm correct:

    It is now legal to own a semi-auto handgun and no locking mechanism in D.C. correct?
  3. 6_gunner

    6_gunner Well-Known Member

    That's what it sounds like to me. Chalk another one up for the good guys.

    Am I correct in assuming that it's still illegal to carry a weapon on one's person in D.C.? Hopefully that will be the next thing to change; we're still heading in the right direction.
  4. kevindsingleton

    kevindsingleton Well-Known Member

    If what they're attempting to produce is a "responsible solution", is that not the same as admitting that their prior "solution" was irresponsible?

    And, if the NRA is "demand"ing capitulation, isn't it because the council and Congress are violating enumerated rights via the Heller decision?

    Do the people in DC just not care that they're governed by idiots?
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2008
  5. eflatminor

    eflatminor Well-Known Member

    "Do the people in DC just not care that they're governed by idiots?"

    The citizens of DC voted these people in office. These are the same people that voted for Marion Barry AFTER his got busted smoking crack with a whore. While I’m sure there are exceptions, I say the voters of DC are at best ignorant to history and let’s be honest, probably idiots as well. Shall we take a look at the average IQ, education level and income of the good people of DC? Want to bet it’s at the bottom of ladder for any reasonable measure of intelligence? Idiots voting for idiots...not a surprize.
  6. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    At half the speed of a glacier.
  7. Moo 2 Drvr

    Moo 2 Drvr Well-Known Member

    The house ignored DC this morning and passed the Childers amendment stripping DC of its ability to regulate firearms.:neener:

    Now if only the Senate would do the same. :uhoh:

    One down, one to go. I for one will be thrilled if DC's officials take it in the shorts after giving it to the citizens for so long.
  8. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Well-Known Member

    If DC can't find a way to comply with the Supreme Court decision, I guess it is time for the Federal Govt to step in.

    It is really simple... no restrictions, no permits to purchase or own, no storage requirements, no nothing....

    Why does DC want to restrict honest citizens from exercising their rights as citizens of the USA?
  9. Professor Gun

    Professor Gun Well-Known Member

    I am sure if the D.C. council were interfering with voting rights or with free speech that the our Congress would be just as slow and reluctant (Senate) to step in to assure basic constitutional freedoms for the citizens of D.C.:rolleyes:

    By the way, the ACLU will certainly get involved in defending the constitutional rights of the people of D.C., right? Oh yeah, they defend only some of the rights listed in the Bill of Rights:(.
  10. James T Thomas

    James T Thomas Well-Known Member

    job protection and the party power

    Don't relax just yet; the House is holding it's breath until the election is over, and the Senate will do likewise.

    There is nothing -nothing that these legislators will not do in order to retain Party; Democratic control over this nation. They are distraught over loosing the White House and frantic to regain it. {There must be some great strategic plan of theirs in the wing, awaiting..}

    Should they succeed in November, then watch how things will rapidly go.

    If this bill had been before them after Nov. it would not even be contended.

    At this critical time they do not want to appear; to give the conservative vote any more truthful views of who they are. Until this is over that is.
  11. 7.62X25mm

    7.62X25mm member

    What's really, really amazing is that despite all the agonizing handwringing, people carry firearms lawfully everyday and there's no "bloodbath." Moreover, when there is a bloodbath, it inevitably involves UNLAWFUL possession. And so the laws regarding restriction of RKBA aren't working, are they? But I'm preaching to the choir.
  12. usmarine0352_2005

    usmarine0352_2005 Well-Known Member

    1.) What's the chance of the Senate passing it?

    2.) When will the Senate vote on it?
  13. Moo 2 Drvr

    Moo 2 Drvr Well-Known Member

    If Harry Reid has his way, the bill will never see the light of day. The only chance is to attach it as a rider to a bill that must pass. Not clear what the chances of that are. We might ask the NRA who will be taking the lead on this in the Senate.

    My understanding is the Senate intends to adjourn for the year on September 26th. Not much time left.
  14. searcher451

    searcher451 Well-Known Member

    When the blind lead the blind, they both fall into the pit.
  15. Old Grump

    Old Grump Well-Known Member

    If Harry Reid has his way, the bill will never see the light of day. The only chance is to attach it as a rider to a bill that must pass.

    This is exactly why the state, senate and house elections are more important than the Presidential race. They don't get the press but they are more important to what we do every day than anything that comes out of the White House. Only When Reid and Pelosi are no longer sitting in the chairs of their respective legislative bodies do we stand a prayer and than only if we keep agitating our representatives and senators. They won't move on anything controversial without a lot of prodding from the public.
  16. elChupacabra!

    elChupacabra! member


    I emailed my congresswoman (Marsha Blackburn, she's fantastic!) thanks to the Brady Campaign's "email your congressmen urging them to oppose 6691" link which allowed me to "personalize" the message, so I basically replaced every "oppose" with "support" and every "common-sense" with "unconstitutional," and it actually got across to my Representative and both my Senators, awesome - use your enemies tools against them:)

    Ok but that's beside the point - I just got a reply from Marsha that has this line:

    So what does that mean - did Fenty go with 6691? Is this issue finally over? I've searched but can't find anything more... thoughts?
  17. Duke Junior

    Duke Junior member

    I feel good!D.C. is capitulating,the House got it right and it's only a matter of time before the be-knighted Senate bows down and sees the light.

    Wisdom from Old Grump:

  18. xsquidgator

    xsquidgator Well-Known Member

    Tactical note- I don't think using links from the Brady campaign is a good idea (I've done the same thing before). If it's a webform that sends a message, even if you change the text it will still show up as coming from the Brady campaign and it is not likely to get read, simply counted as "someone against guns" and thus having the opposite effect than you intended. I now just send emails myself using the tools on the NRA-ILA page.
  19. elChupacabra!

    elChupacabra! member

    Xsquidgator - actually, that was the general argument I received when I originally discussed it in this thread


    (post 3 and subsequent), but the fact that I've received reply emails from both Marsha Blackburn (Representative) and Bob Corker (Senator) directly to my email account leads me (and others) to believe that no, it wasn't simply chalked up as a Brady email, nor was it sent from a @brady.org account... they both replied in agreement with the body of my email, so they got the message.

    Anyway, has anyone else heard that Fenty has submitted to 6691 prior to a Senate vote? That was really why I posted.

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