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Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Franco2shoot, Oct 26, 2006.

  1. Franco2shoot

    Franco2shoot Well-Known Member

    I have a Remington by Uberti, and a 1860 Colt by Pietta. Both are supposed to be .44 calibre, but the Colt shaves a nice lead ring, where the Remington does not. Is .44 different for Uberti? I would be curious to know what folks think as to the quality of one versus the other. For me the Uberti seems to be a little "Finer". Certainly the action is better, but that could also be due to the fact that its a Remington and not a Colt reproduction. It's been difficult for me to do a side by side comparison, since there are no vendors in my area that have both. I'll have to rely on the hard-core gunners out there to answer the question.

  2. sundance44s

    sundance44s Well-Known Member


    What size balls are you useing in the Uberti Remington ..mine shaves lead with .454`s but none with the .451`s
  3. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    The chambers of my Ubertis all hover about at .450" every Pietta I've measured has run .448-49". The 36 and 31s are the same-pietta slightly smaller than Uberti.

    The good news is that both are generally well aligned with the barrels and can be very accurate. The Piettas are more likely to work with the .451 diameter balls and the .375 balls from hornady which are frequently undersized and lopsided. they will work equally well with the 454 and 457 balls and the 36s are fine with 380s.

    One correspondent has an original Remington NMA and measures his chambers at .452. He complained of a chainfire with a small diameter ball but it works very well with .457s.

    I've gotten some very fine groups with balls that didn't shave on seating but were tight enough that they didn't walk forward from recoil.
  4. dwave

    dwave Well-Known Member

    A suggestion for your 1858, use .457 round balls in it. It will shave a bigger ring. I have a Pietta 1858 and using .451s it doesn't shave much of a ring. I don't have any Ubertis to compare to my Piettas, but I think that the difference might be because they are trying to get as close as possible to the originals. My 1858 Pietta needs the larger balls in it.
  5. pohill

    pohill Well-Known Member

    Check to see if the Remington cylinder mouths are chamferred. If they are, the balls won't shave as much.
  6. Franco2shoot

    Franco2shoot Well-Known Member


    I have been using .450 in both, and I can keep a tighter pattern with the Remington even though it doesn't shave a ring like the Pietta. There's some slight lead shaved off, just not a ring like the Pietta. The Uberti seems to have a much better trigger pull, and release but, this might be all mental rather than actual. Since I have the R&D conversion cylinder for the Remington, I find myself putting a box of 50 through it every time I go to the range, whereas the blackpowder time to load usually means I run once through the Remington, and 3 or 4 cylinders through the Pietta Colt. With most of the practice being done on the Remington, its no surprise that I can hold a better pattern.

  7. Smokin_Gun

    Smokin_Gun Well-Known Member

    It's because it's a Remington! LoL!

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