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Union workers - Guns & Voting

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by HKGuns, Mar 17, 2013.


Union / Non Union Members how do you cast your Ballot?

Poll closed Apr 16, 2013.
  1. I'm Union and I vote with the Union

    5 vote(s)
  2. I'm Union and I vote other issues

    15 vote(s)
  3. I'm Union and I vote the 2nd Amendment

    82 vote(s)
  4. I'm Union and I don't Vote

    0 vote(s)
  5. I'm Union and from now on I will vote the 2nd Amendment

    5 vote(s)
  6. I'm non Union and I vote other issues

    11 vote(s)
  7. I'm non Union and I vote the 2nd Amendment

    220 vote(s)
  8. I'm non Union and I don't Vote

    1 vote(s)
  9. I'm non Union and from now on I will vote the 2nd Amendment

    13 vote(s)
  10. I don't care to disclose any of the above

    9 vote(s)
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  1. HKGuns

    HKGuns Well-Known Member

    With the current round of attacks on Gun ownership now underway I was wondering how Unionized workers feel.

    I am sure there are union workers who are a part of this forum and in the firearms community in general. I was wondering, given the strong Union support for the D party, how those involved with Unions and are Firearms enthusiasts square their themselves when it is time to vote.

    The results of this poll might be interesting. This is not a public poll and I don't expect anyone to reveal their private votes unless they want to of course.
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2013
  2. TBH

    TBH Well-Known Member

    I have been a Union worker for 24 years. I have voted for a couple of Dems over the years, but only after researching their views on gun control and the Second Ammendment. I feel like a minority because not one politician I voted for in November got elected.
    Our freedom is first and everything else is a distant second.
  3. HKGuns

    HKGuns Well-Known Member

    Full disclosure, I'm non union and I have had to hold my nose a couple of times, including this last election, but I vote 2nd amendment by default. TBH I think you will be in the minority if folks are honest. I simply hear too much bally-hoo about living wages and "Evil Corporations" from far too many gun owning Union workers. I sincerely hope I am wrong as there is no reason we can't have a good economy with great jobs for everyone as well as maintain our 2nd Amendment rights.
  4. clutch

    clutch Well-Known Member

    I vote 2nd Amendment. Not lip service 2nd Amendment.
  5. Texan Scott

    Texan Scott Well-Known Member

    Texas is a right- to- work state. We're also a non- preemption state. Our larger cities are in many ways sanctuaries or residential colonies for so- called "progressives". A lot of them will deceitfully or perhaps mistakenly identify themselves as "liberal", but "give us a chunk of your paycheck or you'll never work this business again" has nothing to do with liberty, any more than "give us your guns or else". We don't tolerate either very well here.
  6. cambeul41

    cambeul41 Well-Known Member

    My job required union membership. My particular local is not objectionable, but it did distribute the official "Vote Smart" campaign literature which I found to be a perfect guide: In every race and on every issue, I voted another way.

    Michigan is now a right-to-work state, but since I plan to retire very soon, I will not go through the hassle of quitting and enduring the arguments that would ensue.

    One good thing: The local president is on record as saying that his goal, if Michigan became a right to work state, was to make the local so valuable to the members that they would think of the dues as money well spent. Whether that happens remains to be seen.

    Edit: I did not vote in the poll above. I can't stomach saying, "I am union" since I was put in one with no question asked or even notice of the fact being given — I learned of it from a payroll deduction. My vote is cast for the good of the country and its people. So fare that has also been pro-2A.
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2013
  7. kgpcr

    kgpcr Well-Known Member

    Intersting but not a valid poll being the liberal union nuts are not visiting a gun site. Not all union folks are liberal nuts!! Its just that they would not be on this site
  8. HKGuns

    HKGuns Well-Known Member

    I don't think most Union workers are "liberal union nuts". I think they are regular people who have views on a variety of issues.

    As you can already see above, some are forced into a Union without a right to choose. (For now)
  9. DammitBoy

    DammitBoy Well-Known Member

    My job requires union membership and I hate unions.
  10. Steel Horse Rider

    Steel Horse Rider Well-Known Member

    I am a business owner and I vote the 2nd Amendment among other things. There is generally a common conservative thread running through candidates who support liberty and the Constitution. We had an issue here 5 years ago where the NRA endorsed a flaming lefty freshman Representative against a moderate conservative state legislator challenger because "the incumbent has not cast any anti-Second Amendment votes" but she did vote for Nancy Pelosi for speaker. That is when I lost respect for the NRA. Trying to show evenhandedness should not open the door to stupidity....
  11. DeepSouth

    DeepSouth Well-Known Member

    I'm a member of the USW and while I vote primarily on gun rights issues I'm am not a single issue voter. And with said I frequently disagree with the USW as a national organization, but I do support my local and the people in it, who also are frequently at odds with the USW.
  12. tacxted

    tacxted Well-Known Member

    I work a unionized job at the moment. I vote pro-2nd amendment and when I do the union is not on my mind at the voting booth. My union sent me mailings around election time and I promptly threw them in the garbage.

    The union I have does great things for the workers here concerning job security and benefits. I didnt join this job for the union, I think this is important to point out. This job was the best paying in the area and it happened to be unionized.
  13. Old Dog

    Old Dog Well-Known Member

    I guess I'm in one of the most hated unions in the world -- a union that represents folks in law enforcement.

    I am often a single-issue voter -- RKBA/2nd Amendment -- but as a family man, a father and one looking towards securing a better future for my progeny, I have to take a broader view and vote many issues. I typically vote mostly Republican, often Libertarian or Independent, but I have, and do, vote for some Democrats (but NEVER on the national level).

    Every election though, I seem to vote for fewer and fewer candidates from the Democrat Party.
  14. barnbwt

    barnbwt Well-Known Member

    I hate being forced to be a "one issue voter" because I think they are responsible for most of our deadlock, but of all the things I care about, the 2nd is the one area where there is a tangible difference in approach by the various parties. I'm probably more anti-surveillance, but neither major party seeks anything but growth in that area. I will cease to vote as a single-issuer once the crusade against my rights is redirected elsewhere (war on clowns, anyone?)

  15. wankerjake

    wankerjake Well-Known Member

    I know a union firefighter, likes guns for self defense and hunting... pretty sure he votes democrat. We don't talk much politics but I got the impression one time that he feels the democratic party will keep his pension and benefits alive. I know his wife voted Obama... both times.

    Myself, non-union and I vote with all the amendments, not just the second. This does not align much with the (D) party.
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2013
  16. MountainBear

    MountainBear Well-Known Member

    I'm generally anti-union and I vote pro-2nd amendment...
  17. Lex Luthier

    Lex Luthier Well-Known Member

    Not a fan of unions. The yard union at my old job shut the place down with their unreasonable demands. Took my money and ran, and THEN helped Obama get elected. Never did a thing for me but take their piece for "the good of all our members". Yeah right.

    It is ironic that unions are supposed to be so good for people, but end up spending the most in political schmooze money. It's embarrassing.
  18. Roadking Rider

    Roadking Rider Well-Known Member

    Belong to the United Brotherhood of Carpenters a for over 41 years. I'm a Republican and I vote how I please. I'm very Pro 2nd amendment rights. However my vote is never along party lines and I try to vote on all the issues not just one. There is plenty of blame to go around within both parties for this current mess we're in. If it were up to me I'd throw them all out and start over. They all seem to have forgotten that they work for us, and we don't answer to them. Many voters seem to have forgotten that.
  19. vito

    vito Well-Known Member

    Other than in the public sector, unions are no longer a really relevant issue. While they still have power in some industries, overall union membership is so low as to be worthy of being ignored. If you don't count the teachers and other government workers you would find that there are very few union members in this country.
  20. farmer pliers

    farmer pliers Member

    Also my job is union. I vote other issues. Always pro-life, pro-2nd and less goverment. I have never met a tax hike that I voted for. Several of my coworkers bleed blue. A few are starting to get a little worried about all that is going on here in Colorado but their roots to the union run deep where I am at. We will gain some of their votes, a few may not vote (we will take that as a half vote). My hope is that it won't be to little to late. We have to get out the vote in 2014, 2016 and moving forward from their. Were not going to change the leadership of the unions but we can impact the membership by showing them where this is impacting them.
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