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United Nations WILL monitor Presidential election

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Alan Fud, Aug 8, 2004.

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  1. Alan Fud

    Alan Fud Well-Known Member

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39861 ...
  2. 2nd Amendment

    2nd Amendment member

    We simply HAVE to do something about this Carson creature here in indiana. To say she is an affront to this state is un understatement.
  3. Jim March

    Jim March Well-Known Member

  4. sm

    sm member

    Art's Grammaw won't let me type what I think about the UN in the first place, much less about Meddlin' . THR won't let me type anything negative either... I'll just sit here and breathe through clentched teeth!
  5. DesertEagle613

    DesertEagle613 Well-Known Member


    /* wipes tears from eyes */


    /* induces vomiting */

    Man, I LOVE the UN, yes I do :fire:
  6. Hypnogator

    Hypnogator Well-Known Member

    Could this possibly backfire on the Dems? They are infamous for their manipulations of the vote! It would be ironic if they lost because the UN observers kept them (relatively) honest. :evil: :evil: :evil:
  7. Linux&Gun Guy

    Linux&Gun Guy Well-Known Member

    I feel sick! Doom and gloom is coming from the land across the sea.
  8. GunnySkox

    GunnySkox Well-Known Member

    The bluehelms go marching one by one, hurrah, hurrah..
    The bluehelms go marching two by two, hurrah, hurrah..

    Good Lord and a bag of Sun Chips, what's our country coming to when we have to sniffle and hold up our hand for the UN to help us cross the treacherous crosswalk of elections? The UN is a cancerous lump on the bosom of the free world, and it's just going to keep growing, feeding itself on every morsel of sovereignty it can get its masticating little paws on.

    If they can "oversee" our elections, what's next? Do we get UN Review of our laws, after the Supreme Court gets done with them? Do we get the UN adding on its own little extra tax to help with those Oh-so-useful Blue-Helm'd "Peacekeepers"? Ugh.

    Letting the UN "oversee" our elections is like Uncle Sam letting Big Brother grope Lady Liberty.

  9. RealGun

    RealGun Well-Known Member

    Anyone have some good links for this topic (election procedure reform), which I assume cannot be dwelt upon here? If it has a real connection to guns, I'm not sure what that would be without getting overly abstract.

    I would like to find out if the pouch mail issue was addressed. As I understand it, embassy and APO votes were disqualified because they lacked a postmark, which pouch mail never has. I think that would place the entire overseas military vote in question, something like 150,000 I believe, as well as all diplomats, contractors, missionaries, any voter out of the country mailing by organizational pouch, not a post office.

    I would also like to follow the electronic voting question. I voted electronic in the primary. I think I would be in favor of adding the receipt idea, but I liked the general concept and would like to see any issues with it worked out.
  10. Moparmike

    Moparmike Well-Known Member

    I want to know what the administration is coming to when it bows to the whim of 13 loudmouthed nobodys out of 535 people in the Legislative branch. Congress didnt call for this, 13 whiney, globalist sore losers did. Would you believe that I have heard one 10 second blurb about this in the weeks since their request was made.

    WTH?:confused: :fire:
  11. trooper

    trooper Well-Known Member

    As much as I dislike some things that the UN do, you can't really blame them for this one. Go put the blame on your own administration.

    I probably shouldn't waste my time pointing that out though, as I know perfectly well that to some THR'ers the UN is the root of all evil in the world... :neener:

  12. stevelyn

    stevelyn Well-Known Member

    trooper sez,

    He's exactly right. Our own President has invited the vampire into the house.
    Lets see now...........Bush is different from Kerry.........How? And I shouldn't vote third party because?????:rolleyes:

    Uhhh............. trooper? The UN is still the root of all evil in the world.:D
  13. trooper

    trooper Well-Known Member

    Nah... don't think so. The UN started out with good intentions and has proved to be useful in few instances, unneeded in some and ineffective in most.

    But evil? Me thinks some people around here give 'em waaayy too much credit. The UN is just an oversized bureaucracy with some serious corruption issues that has no clue where it's going. I doubt very much that you'll ever see Blue Helmets parading through the streets of ANY industrialized, western nation.


  14. WilderBill

    WilderBill Well-Known Member

    My friend from Chicago tells me that outright buying votes is the normal way of doing business there.
    What happens if the UN decides to face off against the Daley machine?

    PS, my friend started voting Republican since moving to the free world.
    He was sorta pissed that no one came around to offer him anything at all not to.
  15. feedthehogs

    feedthehogs Well-Known Member

    Ever see the statue outside of UN headquarters?

    No organization that wants to disarm the people of the world only to have its own "monitoring" forces armed cannot be trusted.

    But our administration has appeared to open the door for this and possibly future UN overseeing operations.

    Once you feed the stray cat, it will keep comming back.
  16. trooper

    trooper Well-Known Member

    I know what you mean, and this is by far the part about the UN that I dislike most. And I certainly wouldn't "trust" them.

    But I don't think you can reduce the UN to a means for gungrabbers to further their evil agenda.

    I don't particularly like the UN but I find all this not gun-related UN-bashing kinda silly.

    The UN consists of so many different parties, countries and interest groups that I fail to view it as a monolithic, threatening "Evil Empire". Besides this, every country, including the US, uses the UN to further its own particular interests under the disguise of human rights, world peace, equality etc. etc.


  17. boofus

    boofus Guest

    If the UN wants to 'observe' let them. Bush can invite Ozzy Osbourne to observe for all I care. If the UN flunkies cross the line and meddle then that's something else...
  18. Mr. Kook

    Mr. Kook Well-Known Member

    All things considered, I am not particularly comfortable with UN observers here in an official capacity, but as was said a moment ago, so long as they don't meddle they are little more than flies on the wall.

    That being said, my best guess at why Bush would allow this is to prevent a repeat of the 2000 election vote counting debacle. Quite frankly I see the logic in doing that. If having a few UN observers here who observe and don't meddle prevents a round of recounts and validates the election for all those damn naysayers, well then I don't see what is to lose.
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  19. TechBrute

    TechBrute Well-Known Member

    Having said that, do we not have some sort of department or authority to handle this sort of thing in-house? You know, something crazy like using the police or something.

    Can we pretend she's not from Texas? Please...
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  20. M67

    M67 Well-Known Member

    1. I agree with trooper about the UN.

    2. Those 13 members didn't understand the system. (Why am I not surprised?)
    a) The UN doesn't intervene in any way unless invited by the legal gov't of the country in question.
    b) Observers do not "ensure free and fair elections". They just observe, and then make a report on whether they think the election was fair or not. If anything is wrong, it will be up the locals to decide if they want to do anything about it, the observers don't meddle.

    3. All this talk about the UN is moot. According to this, Powell invited observers from the OSCE, not the UN...

    But what do I know, I live in a country where the black helicopters now fly in broad daylight. One of them made a low pass over my house the other day, cleverly camoflaged for daytime operations - it was painted red and white with the word "ambulance" on the side. If I hadn't had my tinfoil hat on, I wouldn't even have suspected anything was wrong. :scrutiny:
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