University kid wants gun free school

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Mike, I don't think that anyone here has supported a double standard. So far everyone is staying on track, responding to what the "kid" said. Notice the comments here and on the web site that published his article: so far no one supports him, because his position is clear and clearly unpalatable to many people.

You could try arguing your point, of course, but I think it would be self-defeating. People who can see what's wrong with the kid's thinking now might not see it if the issue is turned into the same argument that they heard before.

It's usually a good idea, when talking to people who don't agree on big issues such as the Second Amendment rights of individuals, to see if there is common ground on small parts of those issues such as the right of an armed police officer to attend class as a student. At least that's my thinking.

The people who responded so far believe that the police officer has that right, but they might not--and probably won't--agree that you have that right too. Some agreement is usually better than none, I think, because it could lead forward to even more agreement. That strategy seems more useful than cutting off any agreement right at the beginning. Of course I could be wrong.
 
This is classic hoplophobia.

Did anyone do anything threatening to this kid? Apparently not.
Did this kid -feel- threatened? Apparently.

Where's the problem ownership here.


I wonder what this kid would do if you had a banquet and the centerpiece was a cake that looked like a rifle.
 
What a whinnin' ninny!
There's way too many options to tear into this kid. His own writings seem to be his undoing. As stated earlier, no solid arguments against the FA, only that he's scared (I bet this happens a lot in his world). My own daughter is in college right now (small community college), thankfully she does'nt buy into all the "evil gun" hoopla being passed off as "higher education". But there are some in her classes that do. It's a shame that some poor parent is paying big bucks for this type of indoctrination, being passed off as "education".
People (you know, the smart ones) like this never seem to realize that as soon as they come into a threatning, or life and death situation, who do they immediatly call for help?......SOMEONE WITH A GUN!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
 
Journalism major eh?- With this attitude and a sound background in Marx, he should have no trouble finding employment in one of our fine newspapers :banghead:
 
My reply on the site:

"The original poster seems immature, narcissistic and craving of unearned attention. It is in part people like him who cause violent Islamists to have such contempt for us and which led them to believe that they could attack us without retaliation on 9/11. At some point the realization that the world does not revolve around him will come crashing down upon his head. It will doubtless leave a quite a mark."
 
Deanimator, I just dashed in because I saw that you had commented. Your thinking is always interesting. That comment is especially so. Thanks.
 
Ok so this kid is a moonbat thats clear, but beyond that this kid needs some education. I love how he assumes that if a bad guy has a gun then now he has more ammo. Since we know that ALL guns take the same ammo loaded in the same magazines. Second of all his argument about what good things have come from guns in classrooms. What about Grundy Virginia? 2 students who were armed stopped a school shooting, but I guess he gets to ignore statistics that hurt his case.

I would go on and on an refute this guy but on THR I would be preaching to the choir so I will save myself the time.
 
Robert Hairless said:
I don't think that anyone here has supported a double standard.
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OK, my sentiment may have been premature.

I just hope people don't say "it's OK for the cop to have a gun in class -- because he's a cop". It should be OK for him to have a gun in class because he's a citizen of the United States.

I think it's safe to assume the administration wouldn't allow him to carry the gun if he wasn't a cop. But you're right, that is just an assumption.

Mike
 
Logic-Free Zone

Holy spit.

What a ball of lint.

What I want to know is where were all the other guns?

In grade school the teacher would have asked, "did you bring enough for everybody?"

But this is big boy school, so you're supposed to bring your own.

And only ONE student remembered to bring his gun?

Gawd. What do they teach these kids nowadays?
 
here is what I posted on the site.

Wow, Hysteria is alive and well on our college campi. You have the right to be uncomfortable. You even have the right to wet yourself at the site of a gun. You however, have no right to impose your beliefs on others.

That officer and other CCW carriers are law abiding people and have no childish sense of firearms as you seem to. They don't have the "Mommy, make them stop or ill hold my breath till I turn blue" mentality. They see the firearm as a tool, neither evil or good. It is used in self defense, in defense of person, property and country. It is a tool. Get over your childish sense of entitlement and please, for the love of god, don't go into journalism. You are far to involved with yourself to be an objective journalist.
 
Here is what my comment was to this student's? little rant.


"I hope this student is not an example of the type of journalism majors the university is turning out. If he is so interested in Karl Marx maybe he should find out about journalism in a Marxist society. Not too mention the fact that Marx gives all RIGHTS to the government and none to the people."


It is interesting in 37 responses there is not one defending him. In fact the majority seem to think Brandon Wilson has a MAJOR problem. I have a feeling the real world is one day going to give this guy a good sound kick-in-the-teeth.
 
I'm not sure what state this idiot is writing in/from, but in my state an off-duty police officer is a police officer 24/7/365, and pretty much every department in the state requires off-duty officers to carry.

What a jerk!
 
When I worked for the Sheriff, I also held a position as adjunct instructor at the local community college. Everyone in the administration office knew I was a deputy sheriff, I frequently came into the office to retrieve my mail, etc., but after Columbine everything changed. I went by to get my mail and visit a colleague, and the administration staff had kittens.

"He had a gun."

"Why didn't he leave it in his car?"

"Something could have happened...."

I was in and out of the office and didn't register the shock. However, some administrator worked up her courage and called my colleague and voiced all these hoplophobic fears. He told her to get over it. Most of the adjunct instructors in Administration of Justice carried weapons and even some students who were peace officers.

Pilgrim
 
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posted 3/05/07 @ 2:21 PM EST

Evidently Brandon has somehow missed that the world does not revolve around him. He "understands the law" and still disagrees.

Evidently he also "understands" the constitution and still disagrees.

It's hard to imagine that someone so committed to violence against society would have a problem with guns. Then again, anyone who subscribes to the idea that forcible confiscation of another's property is a good thing, probably understands all too well why guns are needed. Feigning fear to provide a plausible basis gun elimination makes sense.

In any case, it doesn't seem like logic has played any major part in the composition of this article. Quite the contrary: it is emotion-driven and self-centered.

Young "man" (if I may use that term), America has rights and liberty baked in. You don't get to change that.

Here's a quote: "Look at it this way. If America frightens you, feel free to live somewhere else. There are plenty of other countries that don't suffer from excessive liberty. America is where the Liberty is. Liberty is not certified safe."
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I was unable to find a single response supporting him.
 
What would be much better is a headline reading "University kid wants free gun school." I'd like to see state supported institutions of higher education include firearms training in their curricula. It would benefit the state and keep the kids off the streets.
 
I am surprised to see that coming from WKU, a university in a very pro-RKBA part of Kentucky. I think that this guy's opinion is probably the minority among peers.
 
University kid wants gun free school? What a maroon. Where are a lot of dramatic crimes committed we see in the news? None other than "gun free zones".
 
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