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Update on the .50 GI 1911...

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Sean Smith, Jan 16, 2004.

  1. Sean Smith

    Sean Smith Well-Known Member



    The .50 caliber 1911 is apparently no myth. :evil:

    Model 1 Specs:
    Proprietary Barstock Frame and Slide
    Original 1911 Size
    Match Grade Heavy Barrel
    Heavy Duty Stainless 7rd. Magazine
    Heinie Slant Pro Tritium Sights
    20lpi Carry Checkering on Frontsrap
    20lpi Checkered MSH w/ Integral Lanyard Loop
    Tactical Single Side Thumb Safety
    Lightweight Trigger, tuned to 4#
    Beveled Mag Well
    Olive Drab Aluma-Grips
    Parkerized Finish
    Cordura Carrying Case

    Attached Files:

  2. Sean Smith

    Sean Smith Well-Known Member

    One FAT cartridge... no ballistics published yet.

    Note that it has a rebated rim, so the breechface dimensions would be the same as a .45 ACP. So you should be able to convert the .50 GI to .45 ACP with just a barrel and magazine swap, which is why I'm guessing they designed the cartridge that way (although that is purely speculation on my part).

    Note too that the gun is the same size as a standard 1911... not a stretched frame like the LAR Grizzly and AMT Automag V pseudo-1911s in a .50 caliber.

    Attached Files:

  3. Rupestris

    Rupestris Well-Known Member

    Well. Looks like I can no longer call my 1911 "Ol' Big Mouth" :p
  4. Sylvilagus Aquaticus

    Sylvilagus Aquaticus Well-Known Member

    I wonder when Bar-Sto, et al is going to start cranking out replacement barrels in .50GI?

    Sounds very interesting. I suppose the velocity will probably be in the 950fps range. I love bigger holes.

  5. whitebear

    whitebear Well-Known Member

    If I recall correctly, this big mouth will be illegal to carry concealed in Oklahoma - we have a restriction against carrying anything over .45 concealed.

  6. Harold Mayo

    Harold Mayo Well-Known Member

    Hah! I just posted on this over at the 1911forum! Everyone interested please note the principles involved...Vic Tibbets and Alex Zimmerman. It's hard to find two more capable guys teamed up in regard to 1911's. This should be interesting.
  7. Correia

    Correia Moderator Emeritus

    Dang. That is actually pretty cool. :)
  8. Grayrider

    Grayrider Well-Known Member

    Sean you are an evil man. Just when I thought 10mm was enough. Now I want one of these. Wonder what they will cost? Wonder what the ammo costs? Wonder if that will stop me....


  9. BHPshooter

    BHPshooter Well-Known Member


    That is one big mother. I'm guessing at this point that the .50 GI is a handloader-only cartridge, or at least very hard to get in a factory loading?

    That looks so cool. :D

  10. Sean Smith

    Sean Smith Well-Known Member

    Considering you can't get the GUN yet, I'd say so. :D

    The really smart thing for them to do would be to sell it with a .45 ACP conversion kit (probably just barrel and mags). THAT would be a hell of a package.
  11. Navy joe

    Navy joe Well-Known Member

    Can you shoot it in CDP for the express purpose of baking Bill W's noodle? :evil:
  12. Sean Smith

    Sean Smith Well-Known Member

    Nope, it has a bull barrel. I'm guessing they had to, otherwise the barrel would be all hole. :eek:
  13. otomik

    otomik Well-Known Member

    .50 GI ballistics info please
  14. BigG

    BigG Well-Known Member


    I guess I'll just have to be satisfied with a moderate caliber for now - 45 ACP. :what:
  15. 1911Tuner

    1911Tuner Moderator Emeritus

    .50 Ballistics

    50 GI ballistics info please

    I'd guess that it wouldn't have a problem makin' major.:what:
    Talk about knockin' a ballistic pendulum bonkers.:cool:

    Lemme see...I'll guess that with the liklihood of a 325- grain pill,
    and the amount of space in such a short case...800 fps from a
    5-inch barrel...no more than 850. Let's see how close I get when
    the specs are published.

    Guesses anybody?

    Just my 2% of a buck...It'll probably be another fad that doesn't go very
    far past the first year. Ammo will be hard to find and HIGH dollar, and the
    good ol' .45 ACP will still reign.

  16. natedog

    natedog Well-Known Member

    If a .45 can knock a man down and blow both his arms off with a shot to the pinky and sink battleships, imagine what this cartridge will do! I mean, the .45 has so much recoil that if you shoot it one handed, it will rip your arm off and impale the person behind you! I can't stand the thought of .05 more inches!
  17. bigjim

    bigjim Well-Known Member

    Make fun all you want but its a much better idea than that dumbass .45 GAP.

    I would buy one.
  18. Harold Mayo

    Harold Mayo Well-Known Member

    Neat concept but I don't think that it will catch on. I could, of course, be wrong.

    To start second guessing two experienced 1911 mechanics and their business before it really even starts...:D

    I'd love to see another company, like this one, come out with a line of semi-custom pistols to compete against the overpriced (IMHO) Wilsons and against the Baers (more reasonably priced). Kimber seems to be going down in quality, in my experience, as is Springfield Armory. Customer service isn't an issue, either, with these latter two, as both will fix whatever is wrong...the issue is that you buy a new gun and then have to send it off to the factory for a while to get it to work right.

    Anyway, I hope that this company takes off and goes well. I don't, personally, see anything in the .50 GI that would really make it clearly a better choice than any other handgun caliber but, if 0.045" difference between a 9mm and a .40 makes such a difference and .05" between a .40 and .45 ACP makes such a difference as what people would like to believe, then the .05" difference between the .45 ACP and the .50 GI should really thrill people...:D

    Hah! Idea for a new and useless thread....!!!:evil:
  19. Brigrat

    Brigrat Well-Known Member

    competition for the 500S&W. I'll bet it will sell if it's available in enough places.
  20. MaterDei

    MaterDei Well-Known Member

    I'm hoping 1911Tuner or other experts will weigh in with his opinion of a 1911 style frame handling the increased stress of this cartridge.

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