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Value of "Sporterized" MilSurp?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by NukemJim, Jan 29, 2013.

  1. NukemJim

    NukemJim Well-Known Member

    Can anyone point me to a source or method of setting the price of a sporterized milsurp? A coworker inherited a number of them and I am trying to help them sort them out to sell. I have a number of references for the straight milsurp and of course there is the net.

    But how they heck do you set a "fair"price for a one of a kind sporterized rifle? My understanding is that sporterizing actually decreases the value of the rifle but I do not know by how much.

    I am up on ARs, Mini14s, and AKs but have no clue as to this stuff.

    I am not asking for prices on exact models just if there is a source or rule of thumb.

    Thank you

  2. TurtlePhish

    TurtlePhish Well-Known Member

    Well... it really depends on the rifle and how well the job was done.

    Well-done jobs can be worth almost as much as the rifle in original condition, whereas poorly-done bubba jobs can be nigh unsellable.
  3. Arp32

    Arp32 Well-Known Member

    Sight unseen, I'd say you'd be wise to set some low expectations for him. From my limited experience, seems like there are 12 bubba'a (or more) for every fine custom job.
  4. bainter1212

    bainter1212 Well-Known Member

    A milsurp is most commonly sporterized for hunting purposes. At this point, you are evaluating the rifle like you would any hunting rifle. 1) availability and popularity of the round the gun is chambered in. 2) condition of the metal, bore condition and crown condition. 3) stock wood type, quality of finish and how well it is fitted to the action ie is it bedded, barrel floated etc. 4) any improvements like trigger jobs, bolt handle mods, drill and tap for scope mounts, quality and install of iron sights etc.
    For example, if you have a 1903 Springfield that has had a nice Monte Carlo stock properly installed, barrel properly cut and nicely crowned, iron sights properly installed, reciever properly drilled and tapped, bolt handle modified by a skilled craftsman, it should be worth just about what a Remington 700 ADL chambered in 30-06 in appropriately used condition would be worth.
    Often the cost and labour to convert these milsurps exceeds the actual end worth of the rifle.
  5. Bushpilot

    Bushpilot Well-Known Member

    There is no "sporterized" pricing rule of thumb that I'm aware of, only an eye for the true quality (or typically lack of quality) of the work. The percentage of "sporterized" rifles out there that are worth as much or more after being sporterized than what they would be worth in good original condition is probably <1%. Most "sporterized" Mausers and Springfields in my area sell for between $150 and $250 dollars. It's somewhat unusual to find one that is even done well enough to equal the value of the average used, factory sporter.
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2013
  6. slicksleeve

    slicksleeve Well-Known Member

    Some of them might be good for a guy like me, who likes to work on rifles. I might could take some of the rougher, less well done ones, and expound/improve on what has already been done, rather than start out on a complete military rifle.
  7. Jim Mac

    Jim Mac Well-Known Member

    Seems there are more people interested in guns in stock configurations, So if you price a gun thats sporterized and add prices on used parts to get it back to stock. Its probably cheaper to buy a stock gun to begin with. So you have to price it accordingly. Its like building a custom classic car. For every buyer of a custom theres 10X the people looking for something stock. jim
  8. cal30_sniper

    cal30_sniper Well-Known Member

    Most can't be returned to stock. Drilled and tapped holes, bent bolt handles, cut down barrels, etc, are all pretty much permanent.

    Mauser 98 sporters are the exception. The SOMETIMES can go for very high prices, if the work is excellent. Other than a few of those, I have never seen a sporter sell for more than $400. Most sell in the $200-250 range, tops. Resale is very tough unless it is an attractive rifle with good work and desirable features, or a sporter version of what would be an extremely rare model in original form. Amateur collectors and hobbyists tend to pay more for a sporterized version of a rare rifle simply because they cannot find or afford a real one, and the sporter is the next best thing. Those instances are pretty limited. Norwegian Krags are one of the few that come to mind.
  9. Jackal

    Jackal Well-Known Member

    If Bubba did the sporterizing (sawed stock, hacksaw barrel, etc), then a $1000 rifle (Springfield) could be worth $100. If it was done really well, then that $400 military Mauser could be worth $700. It is completely and totally dependent upon the quality of the conversion.
  10. caribou

    caribou Well-Known Member

    Its fairly easy to look up a collectors forum for military rifles, then fix on a price a collector would pay for an average piece, then cut your price in 1/2 or by 2/3rds and youll be in the right ball park for a sporterized military rifle.....Adding plastic stocks , scopes and such do absolutly nothing to increase the value of a cut up military rifle.

    However, no matter whats been done, if you can shoot it straigt and YOU like it; priceless.
  11. Shadow 7D

    Shadow 7D Well-Known Member

    And many will look at your rifle and tear you a new one, explaining exactly what it was, and how much LESS it's worth now.

    As for the rifle depends on it, where you are at, and how good you are at selling.
  12. paintballdude902

    paintballdude902 Well-Known Member

    between 75 bucks at 1,000 bucks depending on the rifle, condition, quality of the work...etc

    RAWR!!! that drives me insane when people throw on the cheap plastic ATI stock on a mosin or enfield or mauser and think it added 100 bucks to the value.
  13. R.W.Dale

    R.W.Dale Well-Known Member

    If a name cannot be attributed to the sporterization you're realistically looking at sub $200 guns.

    Rare sights or outstanding woodwork may up the value on their own but don't bet on it.

    I used to collect fine sporterizations form the 50-60's and era. Even when finely built seldom did I pay over $200 for one

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  14. critter

    critter Well-Known Member

    Good answers here. In most cases, they are simply worth what someone WANTS to give you for it.
  15. jimmyraythomason

    jimmyraythomason Well-Known Member

    This but I'd go further and say it is true in ALL cases.
  16. ID-shooting

    ID-shooting Well-Known Member

    Post some pics, you might get an offer or two. I am actually in the market for a springfield 30-06 that has been sporterized, at least the wood. Would like all the metal intact.
  17. Offfhand

    Offfhand Well-Known Member

    Here's a pretty nice example of a "sporterized" Springfield. Nothing fancy about it, just the addition of a plain but nice stock and new sights, plus blueing the metal. I have a few Mausers that have also been sporterized and they are now far more valuable now than before. Basically, it's just a matter of who does the sporterizing.

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  18. El Mariachi

    El Mariachi Well-Known Member

    Here's a pricing example of one sporterized rifle that I bought last year----it's an Arisaka Type 99, rechambered in .300 Savage. Cost me a $1,000.00, but I'll tell ya, I couldn't open my wallet fast enough to pay that price. Thing is gorgeous and built like a tank;





    Whoops, I'm sorry----did I say a thousand dollars?? I meant to say one hundred bucks. Just gotta know where to shop...:D
  19. jrdolall

    jrdolall Well-Known Member

    I have a sporterized Swede that I bought for a song. The stock is high $$$. I had it drilled and tapped and the bolt cut down so I could sit a Leuopold 3x9x50 on it. Sweet shooting deer rifle that has virtually zero recoil.

    The actual value of the rifle is probably about $250 but as a deer rifle it is probably $1000 with the scope and stock. The stock is custom engraved and close to perfect.
  20. Offfhand

    Offfhand Well-Known Member

    Here's a couple of my "sporterized" Argentine Mausers. Never underestimate Bubba

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