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VEPR the Brass Eater !

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by blarby, Jan 2, 2013.

  1. blarby

    blarby Well-Known Member

    So, out of the first 100, these were some of the charmers ( see attached)

    We've since come up with a molding that fits on the receiver cover, so these are hopefully a thing of the past. It worked real good on todays run- nothing even close to these charmers from the first three mags.

    In the interest of science...here they are !

    Everything they've said about the VEPR being a brass eater...its all true !

    So....scrap bucket ? Resize and reload ? :D WWTHRD ?

    New Winchester brass too, its hard to look at !:cuss:

    Attached Files:

  2. 56hawk

    56hawk Well-Known Member

    What's the problem? They look good to me. :) I've actually got a Hakim that puts about the same dent in my 8mm brass. I just reload them and don't worry about it.
  3. ArchAngelCD

    ArchAngelCD Well-Known Member

    As long as those dents aren't in the shoulder area I would say they are no problem. Load them up and fire form them...
  4. blarby

    blarby Well-Known Member

    There are a few that are at the shoulder- those I pitched immediately.
  5. ArchAngelCD

    ArchAngelCD Well-Known Member

    On closer inspection, I changed my mind. I think I just might trash those pieces of brass.
  6. silicosys4

    silicosys4 Well-Known Member

    some of those dents look harsh enough to have affected case volume significantly. I'd toss them into the brass scrap bin. Couple of online ammo places I know about give up to $2/lb credit on crushed nonreloadable brass cases.
  7. codefour

    codefour Well-Known Member

    Toss them..!! Your Vepr dinged the cases.. Those cases are toast... Look up Valmet Buffer on Google. I think that is how it is spelled..

    I would NOT reload those cases. You have an impending case head seperation issue..
  8. 1911 guy

    1911 guy Well-Known Member

    I vote to ditch them. If it was just a slight dent, I'd be tempted to try to salvage them. Those aren't slight dents, though. There appear to be creases where the brass may well be pushed beyond its elasticity point and break under stress, either from re-forming them or under chamber pressure.
  9. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator

    At worst the case would crack at the crease and release some pressure/gasses. Not good, but certainly not a case head separation.

    It is hard to tell in the pics, but those are borderline. The dent would "fireform" out, but if the crease is bad enough to damage the integrity of the case wall, it could split there. Dents are one thing, and sharp creases are another.

    Without a better look, some look OK, while others do not.
  10. blarby

    blarby Well-Known Member

    All of these pictured have the crease.

    A few of the milder ones just have a small dent, and no crease- just like these.

    As noted- we got it handled, but thank you ! Split section of rubber tubing, shaved to fit- works like a charm !
  11. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator

    I need to do that on my 556 Classic. It doesn't dent brass that bad though.
  12. bfoosh006

    bfoosh006 Well-Known Member

    What is the brass hitting on the rifle ? I would see if the is a way to add some sort of "foam Tape " to the offending area. Or even the "fuzzy" side of velcro tape...
  13. blarby

    blarby Well-Known Member

    The receiver cover.

    Hopefully, this length of slit rubber tubing, fastened in place, will keep doing its job !
  14. Hondo 60

    Hondo 60 Well-Known Member

    I would NOT reload those! :eek:
  15. redactor

    redactor Well-Known Member

    Load them with powder-puff loads and shoot them through a bolt gun. They should fire-form pretty well.
  16. blarby

    blarby Well-Known Member

    Interesting thought.

    I think they'll sit better in my scrap bucket, however.

    Even if they puffed out- there is a lot more than denting going on here.... I wish I was a better photog.... I'm worried about the hot points at either end of the crease when it pops back up.

    If I had no more .308 brass...... Maybe....
  17. blarby

    blarby Well-Known Member

    Ahh, the finished brass protector.

    The tubing worked well as a base for about 1/4" of black silicone.

    Works like a charm !

    Attached Files:

  18. bigdaa

    bigdaa member

    I would buy a spare receiver cover and work it with a nibbler and a Dremel to rid the impingement point.

    But then....................that's me.

    I know how the AK variants like to mess up brass. I've been through four and the dents pissed me off. However, your unfortunate situation is far worse than mine and I have to tell you that it hurts me to look at that nice brass of yours all messed up like that. I mean, real pain amigo!

    You know, I have a few rounds of that 7.62x54R in various manufacturers in reloadable brass. You want it if I can find it? I can't remember the exact condition, but it is once fired and most likely from Nagants.

    No charge except you just mail me back the shipping cost.

    I'm in California.
  19. blarby

    blarby Well-Known Member

    Quite alright- and its in .308 winchester- unfortunately I don't have anything in the "big russian round"

    Mainly dug this back up to reference for someone in the rifle section- with a new pic.
  20. WardenWolf

    WardenWolf member

    Thanks. I'm aware of how to install a buffer on an AK. I've had a PSL for years, and save most of my brass from it even though I don't reload yet. About half the 7.62x54R brass is salvageable even without a buffer. The cases fare worse as you go down in caliber. 7.62x39 cases are nicely dented and not reusable (I buy Wolf in that caliber anyway so I don't care), but .223 cases are outright folded. I don't think even a buffer could save them. The AK seems to be an equal-opportunity detroyer, but the thinner cases just can't take it as well.

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