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Walther PP .32

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by mec, Oct 18, 2013.

  1. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    this one was made/imported 1968. It is the original 1928 version of the PP series- the PPK coming in two or three years later. It is a very shootable piece of work and has the advantage over several early to mid-20th century pistols in that, with the safety engaged it is reliably drop safe. It will produce near-fist-sized groups rapid fire from 25 yards and when fired two-handed lands a first double action shot in amongst the rest of the magazine[​IMG]WHB Smith in his book of Pistols and Revovers calls the PP action " complicated but desirable."

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  2. usp9

    usp9 Well-Known Member

    It's one of my favorite classics.
  3. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    Great looking example.
  4. bannockburn

    bannockburn Well-Known Member

    I had a Manurhin PP in .32ACP years ago. I actually preferred the longer barrel of the PP over the shorter one on the PPKs as it gave the gun a better balance in my hand.
  5. PRM

    PRM Well-Known Member

    The Walther PP series are some of my favorite guns. I've been carrying them since the 70s. I have also found in this design of pistols, that I prefer the .32 hands down over the .380 with respect to performance, reliability, and shooting pleasure. They are very accurate, and the mild recoil provides for fast follow up shots. I also like the 9 shot (8+1) capability of the PP and PPK/S.

    Of the two models, the Manurhin Model PP is my favorite. I like the look of the longer slide better. All other things as far as performance are equal. The SS of the Interarms PPK/S is a plus especially during the Summer months, shows minimal wear and is easily touched up.

    They were the gold standard of the pocket semi-auto pistols for well over half a century. Even with its high tech modern competitors, the Walther still has a strong following.

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  6. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    same here with the longer barrel. I've had PPKses and PPKs in 380. they tended to bite. I mistrust the ones assembled by Smith as they suffered a recall and several of the early ones that arrived here would not function. It took great skill to monkey with the PPK enough to screw it up.
    You are also right about the accurate rapid-fire capabilities of the PP
  7. bannockburn

    bannockburn Well-Known Member

    I also found I did better, in terms of accuracy, with the longer sight radius of the PP.
  8. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    I read somewhere that all the later interarms walthers marked Ulm/DE were actually made in the Manhurin so, I googled it and found this on the Walther forum"
    A hardened slide cannot be successfully roll-marked. That is why PP-series pistols that were machined by Manurhin (from special forgings specified by Walther and supplied from Germany, it is worth noting) that were to become "German" Walthers were shipped to Ulm with "soft" slides. Ulm marked the slides and differentially heat treated them by oil hardening plus electrical induction hardening in the area of the safety lever; then the slides were polished and blued (which is why the blue on Walther-marked slides is brighter and does not match the frame blue). Magazines for all .32 cal. PP-series pistols were manufactured at Ulm, (and reverse-supplied to Manurhin). Germans (not French) performed final assembly, quality control inspection, test firing and targeting, and finally proofing. The corresponding tasks on guns marked "Manurhin" were performed 100% by the French; those guns never saw a German fitter or inspector.

  9. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

    Nice Walthers guys! I have a PP in .32ACP that my Dad brought back from Germany after WWII. Unfortunately, it was nickel plated, probably by the G.I. selling them to the unsuspecting like my Dad who knew little about guns as he was an Army dentist.
  10. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

  11. Vodoun da Vinci

    Vodoun da Vinci Well-Known Member

    Gorgeous and beautiful pistols..thank you for sharing. If I could buy a brand new Walther PP in .32 ACP I'd buy one today. Classic design in a caliber I prefer for pocket pistols, SA/DA, drop hammer safety, and enough capacity to give the comfort I like.


  12. PRM

    PRM Well-Known Member

    Keep checking Gun Broker or Guns America. There are usually some very nice Manurhin PPs and Walther PPs for sale. LNIB or 98-99% are not that uncommon. Look carefully at the pics, ask questions and check the seller's feedback. Both of my current Walther(s) were bought off of Gun Broker.
  13. mec

    mec Well-Known Member

    they are something of a sleeper and the prices are fairly manageable.
  14. PRM

    PRM Well-Known Member

    I like the auction sites. And, you do find some bargains. My Interarms PPK/S SS in .32 ACP was like new, the original owner had only fired around 50 rounds through it. He said with his large hands, he just couldn't get around the slide bite??? The pics posted on the auction were not that good and he had removed the original grips and replaced them with a black wood version. The original grips went with the gun but were not shown. I picked that one up for $405.00 No one else was bidding on it.

    My Model PP was pretty much the same scenario. I got it for $400.00, no one was bidding.
  15. Storm

    Storm Well-Known Member

    Seems like folks are beginning to appreciate that the PP/PPK/PPkS really sing in .32. .380 is really pushing the envelope. On Gunbroker .32 caliber pieces are carrying a premium fetching a good bit more than their .380 counterparts. IA Rangers in .32 are regularly getting $700 and above. My two last Walther acquisitions in the past year, a 65 PP and an IA Ranger PPK/S, were both acquired locally in the $450 range. I've pretty much given up on Gunbroker for a .32 PPK at a reasonable price.
  16. PRM

    PRM Well-Known Member

    I'll probably kick myself in the long run. When I bought my IA PPK/S, there was an IA PPK in .32 going for the same price. I went for the PPK/S because all my PP mags would interchange. Oh well, you can only carry one at a time. Someone else also has a nice one in their collection too :)
  17. MedWheeler

    MedWheeler Well-Known Member

    Mec, can you expand on the ammo in the image you posted (post 10)? Thanks.
  18. Phantom Captain

    Phantom Captain Well-Known Member

    It's Buffalo Bore. I carry the Hard Cast Flat Nose .32 in my PPK as I've become more and more convinced that in such a small caliber the HP isn't worth it. I want penetration and the Buffalo Bores certainly deliver. Worth checking out. I also carry the HCFN .380 in my PPK/s for the same reasons.

    One caveat though, the .32 Buffalo Bore works fine in my 1938 PPK but my '71 Manurhin PP does not like it at all. In fact the bullet gets almost stuck in the chamber and is very hard to eject by hand.
  19. Vodoun da Vinci

    Vodoun da Vinci Well-Known Member

    I'm a big believer in flat noses and penetration for .32 ACP for SD myself. I'm loading my own 75 gr. hard cast flat noses (just like the ones BB makes...) instead of relying on hollow points. I'm looking very hard at 200 FPE out of my reloads and feel they might be better than an HP.

    Soon as I satisfy my 9mm jones (got one more pistol to buy....) I'll be shopping for a Walther in .32 ACP as I *really like shooting and carrying my .32 ACPs. I need a Walther in .32 ACP as well as a Beretta 81 or 82.

    I find that .32 ACP pistols have widely variable groove sizes as well as chamber sizes so reloading for a .32 ACP can be very rewarding in that you can cater to the pistol you are loading for.

  20. golden

    golden Well-Known Member

    Different walthers!!!!!!!

    I had an interesting experience the other day at my local gun shop.
    I have been interested in getting a WALTHER PPK in .380ACP. The gun shop had 2 used PPK'S. Both were stainless steel and had better sights than my old pre-war model. The less expensive, but almost $200.00 was an INTERARMS made gun. I checked it out and was shocked at how awful the double action trigger was. It was almost TOO HEAVY to shoot.
    The other was a SMITHH & WESSON produced model and it had the longer tang on the grip backstrap to avoid slide bite. It was like night and day. The trigger was smooth and fully usable, about the same or a little lighter than my PPK. The S&W however was going for $679.00!

    I paid $399.00 about 2 years ago, when I bought a blued WALTHER PPK at the same store. It looked used and had a corrosion wart on the side of the slide which I suspect is from being left in a holster when kept in a draw or glove box. DUMB!

    The gun turned out to be a 1937 pre-war model in .32ACP. It has the short tang and small sights. The trigger was heavy, but smooth. I was surprised at the good groups it would shoot. I had originally planned to practice on the short course I use for 5 shot revolvers and mini pistols like my BERETTA Tomcat and NAA Guardian.
    Instead, I shot well enough to use the 30 round qualification course my agency uses for our .40 S&W pistols. Fine by me.
    As an added bonus, it feeds nearly everything except FEDERAL Hydro Shok and there is no slide bite on my shooting hand. I think the problem of slide bite is related to the size of the shooter's hand. Mine are average and the PPK works fine for me. I carry it on a regular basis.

    I have found my old PPK to be very concealable and easier to shoot than the 5 shot .38 Specials I carried before it.

    Last edited: Oct 23, 2013

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