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Walther PPQ discontinued

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by wow6599, Jan 6, 2013.

  1. wow6599

    wow6599 Active Member

    Well, after 2 short years, it looks like Walther will no longer be making the PPQ, or they won't be shipping them to America.

    And is S&W still the distributor for Walther in America, or did they set-up shop here?

    No matter, I am a little ticked right now. With the change to the mag release, the mags won't be compatible. And parts?

    Anybody have any more news on what Walther is doing?

  2. wacki

    wacki New Member

    wow. I was planning on buying one. Weird time to discontinue a pistol. I would of assumed they couldn't ship them out the door fast enough right now.
  3. wow6599

    wow6599 Active Member

  4. Damn I've been wanting a PPQ for a while. I wanted one with that Walther/HK style mag release, always thought that was nice.
  5. sigarms228

    sigarms228 New Member

    Parts will be avilable as the only mechanical change that I have heard of so far is the magazine release system. The paddle release is the same as that on the P99 which is still made.

    Magazines will also continue to be available since they are the same magazines as used in the Walther P99 series that is still very popular, especially in Europe.

    A positive side effect is that I expect that the orginal Walther PPQ will carry a premium on the used market where it may very well be worth more than what most payed for them new. New Walther PPQs are currently selling for as much as $1025 on Gunbroker!!
  6. AgentV3

    AgentV3 New Member

    I just finished looking at the manual for the M2, and other than it's magazine release, the pistol itself is the same as the old one. I did note a few drawbacks, though. The new magazine release is ambidextrous, but has to be reversed before using it left-handed, the old PPQ and P99 don't need to be reconfigured to be used left-handed. Also, the magazine is different in the M2, it looks similar to the old magazine, but whereas the old magazine has one catch notch on the right hand side of the body, the new one has two notches on both the left and right hand side to accommodate the new release. What was great about the old PPQ is you could interchange magazines with the P99, they were identical in design, you can't do that with this new one.

    Don't let that sway you from getting one if you're still interested in it, the trigger is probably one of the best I've ever felt in a striker-fired pistol, and the grip almost melts into your hand.

    Edit: looks like I got beaten to the punch, I need to type faster :eek:.
  7. RBid

    RBid New Member

    The second gen P99 mags and PPQ mags are the same part. They are made by Mecgar, who supplies an identical part for a Magnum Research clone of the P99.

    The part number for the MR branded mag is:

    They cost about half what the Walther branded mags run.
  8. Ehtereon11B

    Ehtereon11B internet infantryman

    I always looked at the PPQ as a serious downgrade from the P99 in terms of functionality. As well as getting way to close to copying Glock's playbook and designs. The only thing I liked about the PPQ was it has more slots in the rail compared to the P99. Seems after S&W merged with Walther everything started going downhill.
  9. mgmorden

    mgmorden Active Member

    I don't think S&W merged with Walther. They're just the US distributor. A lot of foreign companies like Glock, CZ, Beretta, etc setup US subsidiaries to import their products but Walther chose to partner with S&W.

    Anyways, I never had really looked into the PPQ, but the PPX is looking potentially very interesting from a price perspective. $449 MSRP should translate to around $349 or so street price.
  10. RBid

    RBid New Member

    S&W *was* importing Walthers for them. Walther is doing it directly, as of this month.

    As for the PPQ being a step down from the P99, many of us disagree. The reliability is the same, and the only real difference is the trigger mechanism. As it happens, that trigger is brilliantly executed. The P99 AS has a great trigger in its own right, but these are different, rather than better or worse. For my money, I prefer the PPQ trigger.

    The true Walthers, as opposed to Umarex pistols, are fantastic. P99, PPQ, PPK, PPS... all quality. I expect the PPX to be a great pistol, as well. The PK380 and P22 are Umarex, and are simply not in the same league.
  11. sleepyone

    sleepyone Member

    The mag release did not work for me. It felt awkward to use my trigger finger to drop a mag when my thumb is already right above the mag release on a normal pistol. I tried using my thumb to work the PPQ mag release but it did not reach. Other than that, it was a very comfortable gun to hold. Never got a chance to shoot one.
  12. CPshooter

    CPshooter New Member

    Sounds like you'll really like the new PPQ M2 then with its button style mag release.

    Me? I prefer the paddle mag release. Really disappointed by this news, but after acquiring a PPS and liking the trigger on that, I think I might try to find a P99 QA for my next gun instead of the PPQ like I had planned.

    Anyone know if a trigger job can be done to the QA trigger of the P99 to bring it down from 8 lbs to roughly 5.5 lbs? The travel/feel of the trigger is remarkably similar to Glock's stock trigger pull, except that it's slightly higher in pull weight. Supposedly 8 lbs vs. Glock's ~ 6 lbs. The PPQ trigger is stellar, but if I can get a P99 QA trigger down to around 5-6 lbs, I would be more than happy with that. Besides, I prefer the lack of front cocking serrations on the P99 and grip ergos are still very good. Not quite as contoured, but the overall shape is basically the same.
  13. HKGuns

    HKGuns Active Member

    That is GREAT news. My PPQ is now worth a lot more money after such a short production run!

  14. WinThePennant

    WinThePennant Active Member

    I think they were probably having trouble penetrating the American market because of that innovative mag release. And, when I say 'innovative,' I mean it. I really like that mag release. But, a lot of people don't want to relearn how to drop a mag.
  15. HKGuns

    HKGuns Active Member

    It won't be a German pistol with that silly looking button on the side.

    I far prefer the HK paddles to the thin PPQ release, but I like both better than the button you find on most other pistols.
  16. wow6599

    wow6599 Active Member

    I have no plans on getting rid of mine, but that's an interesting thought. I really like the gun; stocked up on 5 Walther and 4 MR mags and a holster so it's here to stay.
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2013
  17. Okiegunner

    Okiegunner Member

    I was at 2 LGS and at a Cabelas today in Ft. Worth, Texas. All were sold out of P99 and PPQ.
  18. meanmrmustard

    meanmrmustard New Member

    Mine too. I nearly cried.
  19. CarlJ

    CarlJ New Member

    I wonder what my less than year old PPQ with only 200 rounds through it would bring?

    Everything is for sale at a price! :D
  20. Pilot

    Pilot Active Member

    Instant collectors items! I'm sure they'll command .45 Luger prices in the near future. :D

    (well maybe if this gun ban crap continues) :fire:

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