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Want to report an honest shop.....

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Hokkmike, Dec 26, 2012.

  1. Hokkmike

    Hokkmike Well-Known Member

    LGS in New Albany, PA still has .223 and 7.62x39 ammo at fair prices.

    Also they have a supply of AK- 30 round mags. (I have one for sale in the classifieds)

    Point is, not everyone is taking advantage of today's panic.....
  2. gfpd707

    gfpd707 Well-Known Member

    I was going to call you out on the taking advantage part but your price on your mag is not too far out of line for the times we are in.
  3. JohnnyK

    JohnnyK Well-Known Member

    do they sell online... I need some .223 thanks
  4. Hokkmike

    Hokkmike Well-Known Member

    Sorry - they do not sell on line.
  5. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    Gosh...I'd rather they were getting as much money as possible for their wares as it might be a long time before more product comes in to sell. If they run out selling at "honest" prices, what are they going to live on while they wait (maybe months) for more inventory? It's good to see stores putting a bit of extra cash aside while they can so they can keep the lights on through the lean times.
  6. JustinJ

    JustinJ Well-Known Member

    Capital earned from smashing all their previous sales records? They may be going into a dry spell but they're also likely coming out of a monsoon.

    My LGS has not raised prices one dime. The next batch will likely go up some to reflect their increase in supplier costs but they won't be gouging. They are also limiting certain items, such as magazines, to five per type per month to help ensure more customers are able to get at least some of what they want.
  7. Cee Zee

    Cee Zee member

    I would be ok with pricing based on what it would cost to replace ammo or firearms if they did the same thing when prices were going down. But how many companies buy ammo and sell it at a lower price than they expected because they know prices are going down? Not very many would be my guess. If they don't have the money to invest in ammo and then price it based on what they paid for it then most likely they don't have enough operating capital to stay in business anyway. I say they should sell what they have based on what they paid for it and if they have to pay more for the next shipment they can raise the price then. Raising prices on speculation is what the oil companies do and I don't think many people think the way they do things is fair.
  8. Agsalaska

    Agsalaska Well-Known Member

    That is very disappointing. They should be charging much more for their items right now. I don't like seeing people not making sound business decisions. And I hate it even more when people don't understand market forces.
  9. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    Companies that make money stay in business. Companies that stay in business are around to sell nice things to us tomorrow. A company that only makes *a little* money when they could make *more* money runs a greater chance of not living through lean times.

    We should all be HAPPY for our gun stores that the market is being very good to them right now. We want our gun shops to do WELL, be profitable, and grow. We know things could be tougher in the next few months so we should be encouraging them to put aside any extra cash they can bring in.
  10. Techsan

    Techsan Well-Known Member

    I love it, these stupid gun stores who haven't jacked up prices in the panic are a bunch of damn idiots who can't comprehend how the market works. Yes, let's call these idiots out while embracing the stores that raised prices sky high. I can't wait to spend my hard earned dollars at the stores that blew up their prices because they damn sure know how to run a business.
  11. saenzrich

    saenzrich Well-Known Member

    Thank you!!! The sarcasm was needed.
  12. Agsalaska

    Agsalaska Well-Known Member

    Dont always agree with your posts Sam. But amen to that one.
  13. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    I'll add -- And instead of laughing at or pillorying the folks who will pay high prices right now, or telling them they've been CHEATED and SCREWED and RIPPED OFF, we should be thanking them for helping keep our shops and our hobby alive.

    You're late to the party? Fine, there's a little donation required to help the community stay healthy but we welcome you with open arms and enjoy your new rifle!
  14. Cee Zee

    Cee Zee member

    The last time this happened it was the companies that didn't jack up their prices needlessly that stayed in business. Several new stores popped up at that time and they're all gone now because they thought they could clean out their safes and get rich. It didn't work that way where I live.

    I do want my LGS's to stay afloat. And they will do that by giving their customers an even break. No one expects them to lose money. I don't really expect them to get rich either. And it's the companies that operate on a narrow profit margin that grow exponentially in the long run. Companies like Buds. Their prices are as cheap as anyone's and they have expanded several times over the past few years (especially right after the last panic buying was over).
  15. JustinJ

    JustinJ Well-Known Member

    Companies that earn customer loyalty rather than making customers feel taken advantage make money and not just in the short term.

    I'm skeptical of this argument that stores need to jack up prices to compensate for limited availability from their supplies. As has been mentioned before gun stores have also been selling out of the items which have been sitting around collecting dust for some time. I have to wonder if if many of these stores haven't sold more in a couple of weeks than they otherwise would have over the course of a few months. While they may not be able to get enough inventory to meet demand right now they may still have higher than normal sales as what they do get will be sold immediately as opposed to sitting around for a few weeks or months per usual. Failure to meet demand does not automatically equate to failure to make a profit.
  16. JustinJ

    JustinJ Well-Known Member

    repeat deleted
  17. CraigC

    CraigC Well-Known Member

    Amen! IMHO, there's a lot of crap coming out of people who have absolutely no idea what it takes to run a successful business. If you have something that costs you $10 that you usually sell for $12 but you have the opportunity to sell it for $50, you're an idiot if you don't sell it for $50. Likewise, if you're a consumer and you take offense to your local shop selling a $12 item for $50, if you begrudge your local shop making a profit when and where he can, YOU are the one being disloyal, greedy and a few other things I'll refrain from saying on THR.

    Greed is not exclusive to merchants and corporations. What we're seeing a lot of these days, particularly in silly threads like this, is ignorant consumer greed.

    All of this is a direct result of liberalized thinking and living in a nanny state where everybody expects the government to protect them from the bad mens. :rolleyes:
  18. JustinJ

    JustinJ Well-Known Member

    Yes, because not wanting to pay a price one believes is fair obviously has not been a component of commerce since man began trading goods.
    Damn communist Mesopotamians!

    If you think not wanting to pay a price that one deems unfair is "greed" i suggest checking out a dictionary. In the meantime, please contact me if you are ever in the market for a used car.
  19. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    There's a difference here between not being willing to pay more than what you believe is a "fair" price, and being upset at your LGS and/or "panic buyers" who ARE willing to sell and buy for more than you think is "fair."

    If you feel that a mid-range AR-15 shouldn't cost you more than $1,000, then you probably will have to wait a bit (or get pretty lucky at the moment) to find one in your price range. If you "NEED" one right this minute, you're probably going to have to loosen the purse strings.

    That's fine and fair. Waiting for a more favorable "buyers' market" is part of the free market system, too.

    Ill feeling (and worse statements) toward sellers and buyers who follow the market trends --wherever they may go-- is not.
  20. Techsan

    Techsan Well-Known Member

    To summarize, the gun store the OP started this thread to praise is run by idiots, and anyone who appreciates this gun store not jacking their prices up in the recent panic is a greedy socialist liberal. Got it, thanks for the perspective.

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