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Was powder affected by panic buying in 2008?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by HOOfan_1, Dec 20, 2012.

  1. HOOfan_1

    HOOfan_1 New Member

    I remember primers being affected....as they are now, but I do not remember powders....but then again in 2008 the only think that I shot in vast quantities were pistols...and they don't require much powder per round, so I was not buying much powders.

    Now that I am shooting a lot of .223 and only have half a pound left....I am wondering if I need to go ahead and panic buy an 8 pound jug while it is available.
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2012
  2. readyeddy

    readyeddy Active Member

    An 8 pound jug wouldn't qualify as a panic purchase. That's only about 2250 rounds. If the price is right, I would buy if down to only half a pound.
  3. 1SOW

    1SOW New Member

    "Certain powders" are going to be scarce fast. Probably 'your' powder is one of them.

    Back in the first panic, my favorite pistol powder was rarely available along with primers.
    You don't shoot very much, but I would get at least 8# if I were you.

    Also consider that the price WILL go up, and even if/when the shortage eases off, the price is unlikely to go back where it is now. It didn't last time.
  4. plodder

    plodder Member

    I normally buy powder and primer only when I notice I am getting a little low on inventory. I then buy enough to get close to the first level of Haz Mat fee (50lb. at Natchez) That will get me about 6 or so 8lb jugs and some primers. I have an order processing now, but it was a "routine" order. But I did notice that they were out of stock on small rifle & small pistol primers.
  5. HOOfan_1

    HOOfan_1 New Member

    2285 rounds for me. At my current shooting rate, that would be about 1.5-2 years worth of shooting. If an AWB passes, I may lay off on shooting it that much though, for fear of burning out the barrel.

    With Hazmat and shipping I am looking at $187...not really that great of a deal. Probably still cheaper than buying it at my LGS with sales tax though
  6. cfullgraf

    cfullgraf Active Member

    Yes, in 2009, some powders were in short supply for a while.

    I had to do some substitutions, with the appropriate adjustments in loads, to keep my inventories at comfortable levels.
  7. smokey262

    smokey262 New Member

    The powder that seemed to be hardest to get last time was Varget. Rampant price gouging on gunbroker, etc.

    Also 380 ACP brass and bullets, 45 ACP bullets, all primers except 209 shotgun. Some reloading dies were scarce, especially for pistol, as many new folks started this hobby
  8. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator


    IMR 4895 and Varget got hard to find quickly. Perhaps others as well, but I don't use a great many rifle powders.
  9. NeuseRvrRat

    NeuseRvrRat New Member

    not sure about the text of the proposed legislation, but you could get a barrel easily and legally during the '94 AWB.
  10. ArchAngelCD

    ArchAngelCD Active Member

    Many powders were not to be found during the 2008 scare.

    Varget, BL-C(2), H335, 4895 and a few others were gone as was Unique and 2400. No W231 was available either. I'm sure there were many more but those are the ones I remember because I couldn't get them or my friends mentioned they couldn't get them.
  11. Sport45

    Sport45 Active Member

    That's not a panic buy. That's waiting too long to restock. :)

    If an 8# jug is good for 1.5 years you only have about 5 weeks worth of powder left.
  12. Twiki357

    Twiki357 Active Member

    In my area in 2008 powder was just as scarce as primers and just as expensive. One pound jars were going for up to $35,Bullseye, Unique, etc., IF you could find any. A few weeks ago it was back down to $20 a pound and some of the premium stuff like Varget was $24.
  13. HOOfan_1

    HOOfan_1 New Member

    Even threaded barrels? (not that I really need that)
  14. hentown

    hentown New Member

    I bit the bullet and bought 32# of 844 a coupla months back. Also have about 50k primers and 8k-or-so .223 bullets.
  15. HOOfan_1

    HOOfan_1 New Member

    Well I just boght 8lb of H335 and 2 pounds of W231 (which is about 2500 rounds). Should have gone ahead and bought another pound or 2 of H335 just to take advantage of the Hazmat fee

    Bullets seem to be pretty well in stock.

    Primers are going to be my problem....
  16. cfullgraf

    cfullgraf Active Member

    There were specific rules concerning the installation of muzzle devices. They had to be pinned and welded.

    Also, certain types of muzzle devices were banned, like flash hiders if I remember, but muzzle brakes were not.

    And, you could still build a pre-ban rifle(a rifle identified by documentation as having been built prior to the ban) any way you want.

    So yes, threaded barrels could be had.

    (disclaimer, I think I got all that correct. I may have specific details a bit off. After all, I have slept since then.:) )
  17. capreppy

    capreppy New Member

    H4350 is already out at pretty much all (I say pretty much all, but haven't actually found it) of the places.

    I know that H4350 is pretty popular, but dang!!!
  18. NeuseRvrRat

    NeuseRvrRat New Member

    yes, even threaded bbls

    if it was in pre-ban "evil" configuration before the day it went into effect, you could put new parts on it that included the evil features. the lower was the only part that mattered because it has the serial number.

    like i said, we have no idea what legislation will or will not pass or what the actual text will say, but i doubt any proposed legislation would be much different from the previous AWB. the '94 AWB did not prevent anyone who wanted to shoot an AR from doing so. it might've had a different name on the side and missing some "evil" features, but it was made on the same machines in the same factory and functioned just the same.
  19. Hondo 60

    Hondo 60 Active Member

    I loaded a LOT of Tite Group back then because it was always available.

    Some powders were scarce others, not so much.
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2012
  20. bfoosh006

    bfoosh006 Member

    Last time it got bad , primers dried up , powder was all gone. If you were lucky, you would find some online... if you checked every day and frequently.
    BUT ..... it took a lot longer than 72 hours for stuff to "dry up"....

    This time , all of the stuff online is drying up at a much, much faster rate.
    People that lived through the previous panic buys, have gotten smarter....
    For good and bad.... some people have bought tons of products just so they can sell them for profit when it gets worse. ( Which I believe will happen )
    The time of the year ( the holiday season ) has also made it an issue for some, both buyers and sellers. I will be interesting to see where prices are after the holidays.

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