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Web rumors and astronomy

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Preacherman, Dec 29, 2002.

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  1. Preacherman

    Preacherman Well-Known Member

    Hi, all. I'm sure many of you have seen or heard of the ridiculous rumors floating around the Web ad nauseum about the alleged existence of "Planet X", the allegations that NASA never landed men on the moon but filmed the whole thing in a movie studio, etc. Well, for those of you who want some ammunition to shoot down this sort of nonsense, see http://www.badastronomy.com/. It's very entertaining, but also useful stuff. For those of you who haven't run into these offbeat loony rumors before, prepare to be entertained!
  2. Tamara

    Tamara Senior Member

    In the same vein, and perhaps more importantly, to discover the junk science that legislation which affects your freedom is based on, go to www.junkscience.com . "All the junk that's fit to debunk".
  3. redhead

    redhead Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Tamara. Great website. I haven't visited it for awhile. Too many people run their lives based on emotions, not facts. It's the "but we have to do SOMETHING" syndrome, do something, even if it's wrong and useless. For instance, the Ballistic Fingerprinting proposal. It's moving along he** bent for leather in California. "But we have to do SOMETHING!". A study for the Cal. AG's office even shot down the ballistic fingerprinting, but the fools are going to try for the legislation anyway.
  4. 2nd Amendment

    2nd Amendment member

    Take a close look at the storm over the moon landings. NASA is definitely in up to its eyeballs in something less than honest. OTOH I don't think we failed to go to the moon, I simply think NASA reshot a lot of stuff and is now stuck between a rock and a hard place. Admit to "cleaning things up" and watch public opinion and their credibility dry up. Keep insisting nothing is wrong and lose credibility by degrees.

    The folks at the badastronomy BB have had a lot of conflicts with some guy running a website devoted to the photographic evidence of at least some stage work. The thing is, while continuing to claim their debunking mastery they keep winding up calling him names and telling him to go away.

    Personally I think the entire thing is rather hysterical. :D
  5. redhead

    redhead Well-Known Member

    Forgot to mention that i'd read about Planet X on Art Bell's website some months ago. I love Art Bell - I find his show to be hugely entertaingly at times. He has on the most bizarro guests. If one took them seriously, you'd be living in a deep bunker with your food, water, guns and ammo, and you probably still wouldn't survive!
  6. 12-34hom

    12-34hom Well-Known Member

    Farce or no.

    Hell, they brought back some green cheese, what other proof is nessacary?

  7. RikWriter

    RikWriter Well-Known Member

    I think your post is a bit hysterical to be honest. Do you REALIZE how many scientists in how many countries had access to those images? Do you REALIZE how big a coup it would have been for, say, the Soviets to claim the US moon landings were faked?
    The idea that anything about the moon landings was faked and just now it happens that a few fringe whackso who've never accomplished a single thing on their own in their life would "catch" it is so ludicrous that it's hardly worth arguing about.
  8. 2nd Amendment

    2nd Amendment member

    Sometimes I wonder if you ever actually read anything, Rik.

    I don't believe the landings were faked.

    There have been questions about certain images since the very first landing. The questions have been dismissed with the same explanations...until those explanations have been debunked and then new explanations have been manufactured.

    There is nothing the least bit hysterical about the idea government would "polish" things for public consumption. It is, in fact, pretty much the history of government in a nutshell.

    What does the number of individuals involved have to do with anything? How many people does it take to stage a photograph? And how many people in the huge enterprise that was the space program actually ever looked at every single photograph, had the technical knowledge or personal experience to think something might be wrong AND the inclination to even consider it?

    The truly hysterical thing is that there are still people who can be involved in RKBA who will then blindly consider everything else the government pukes up as Gospel. Government does stupid things, thinking it can never be caught because of the resources and intimidation factor. Then government spends years dashing around in circles swearing it hasn't done anything, only to eventually admit it DID do some piddling little thing that nobody would have cared about had they admitted it in the first place. But, by the time the admission arrives, the Conspiracists have already gained so much steam that ANY vindication welds their credibility solid.

    Government shooting itself in the foot over non-issues is what I find hysterical. Almost as much so as you still jumping on my case when you haven't got a clue what I'm talking about. Continue that TFL tradition.
  9. RikWriter

    RikWriter Well-Known Member

    And you are continuing your internet-wide tradition of spreading conspiracy theories then attacking those that question them.
  10. JackM

    JackM Well-Known Member

    I'd be very surprised if:
    - the Russians weren't monitoring the Apollo missions as closely as NASA.
    - didn't know the exact location of every spacecraft involved from lift-off to spash-down.
    - wouldn't have yelled bloody murder if NASA had faked anything.

  11. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

    Neither legal nor political or even remotely firearms related.
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