What caliber has killed the most people?

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If I had to guess, this would be my list;
1. 7.62X39mm
2. 7.62X54R
3. .303 british
4. 9mm
5. .308
6. 8mm mauser
7. .223
8. .45acp
9. .30-06
10. .30 carbine
11. 22lr

1. I would guess 7.62X39mm first, simply because of how prolific AKs and SKSs have been the past six decades, even though they missed out on being used in both world wars, which were by far the bloodiest conflicts in history. I'm sure the popularity of rifles chambered in that caliber being used by gangs, guerillas, and third world nations probably helps close the gap though.

2. 7.62X54R has been around for ever. Mosins killed a boatload of people in WWII, and there's still people being killed with Mosins and Dragunovs.

3. Even though it's not nearly as common today, .303 british has been killing people since the beginning of time.

4. 9mm has been around over a century, and is still the most common handcun caliber in the world today. It's been a common caliber for sidearms and SMGs in almost every conflict, by almost every nation, and it's killed a lot of people in civillian murders too.

5.. .308 has been used by NATO for a very long time. It saw action in Vietnam and Korea with Americans, and has seen action worldwide by all kinds of third world folks using G3s, FALs, etc.

6. 8mm mauser, simply because of how many people were probably killed with it during both world wars. It was also adopted by other nations, and is still used today.

7. .223 because it's been the main cartridge of NATO for a long time, even though the conflicts it's been involved with haven't been as bloody as the conflicts that most of the older .30 cal. cartridges were involved in.

8. .45acp just because of longevity, and the fact that it was chambered in 1911s, thompsons, etc. It's killed a lot of people in the civillian world too, although still not as commonly used as 9mm.

9. .30-06 because of the M1 Garand, 1903, and BAR, all of which saw a ton of service. It was used by lots of other nations as well, and is still one of the most common hunting calibers, even though not too many people get killed while hunting.

10. .30 carbine because of it's use during WWII and Korea. The M1 carbine is the most highly produced small arm in American history.

11. .22lr because of how cheap and common it is, even though it's never been the official caliber of any nation's standard weapons, it's been killing people across the globe for a long time, and will never become obsolete.

Again, I'm just guessing about all of this, but am curious if anyone has a better idea of what small arms caliber has caused the most death and destruction throughout history.
 
I've always heard .22 LR has killed more people than any other round on the planet, but who would compile such statistics?
 
Hmmmm tough one. I think the .75 caliber Brown Bess should replace one of the selectons on the list.. I also think the .50 BMG should replace one of the selections.


Maybe the .45 and the .30 Carbine should be replaced (IMO). Pistols and pistol carbines actually play a very, very tiny role in actual combat.
 
The 7.7 Jap was used to kill an awful lot of people, tons of them were helpless civilians or POWs.
 
.22 lr is the winner according to all the data I could find. It seems the cheapest and most widly available caliber is in fact the deadliest.
 
Without any facts or stats to back this up, I'd have to say 7.62x39. It is used in the world's most popular assault rifle and is used to kill thousands every day. Be it the middle east, or practically the entire African continent, I would have to believe more people have died at the hands of that cartridge than anything else. Obviously it's not the world's most popular cartridge, but it is the most common in most of the worlds troubled regions and conflict zones.
 
I've always heard .22 LR has killed more people than any other round on the planet, but who would compile such statistics?

That data is specifically talking about domestic murders and the like

I think the OP is including wars and military deaths. Since no military uses .22lr, I think his list may be right on.
 
What rounds did the Russians use in the WW's?

From all that I know was the 7.62x54R (their rifle/machinegun cartridge) and the 7.62x25 (their SMG/pistol cartridge. There is also the 7.62 Nagant (the revolver). Guess they really like the 7.62mm bullet...
 
Guess they really like the 7.62mm bullet...

As they should. In 54mm it's a fantastic rifle round, in 39mm it's proved an effective carbine round.

Frankly we should have just adopted the damn thing ourselves.
 
.22lr is the winner for MURDERS. It's the favorite for hits and assassinations as the small lead bullet deforms and fragments into an un-traceable projectile when fired into the cranium of a target. Revolvers chambered in .22 leave no casing to be analyzed and without a projectile to compare ballistically, it's impossible to link the gun with a crime.

7.62x54R is the winner over all. Think about it. the x54R is STILL in use. SVD's, PKM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PK_machine_gun).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62x54mmR

Created in 1891 and still in use today. Was used in the Russo-Japanese war, WWI, the Russian Revolution, The Winter War with Finland, WWII, Russia's Invasion of Afghanistan, etc.

Also consider that in the revolution, 7.62x54R was being shot by both sides against each other, same in the war with Finland that left hundreds of thousands dead.

Not to mention that every Republic in the U.S.S.R. was issued Hundreds of thousands of Mosin Nagants and x54R ammo to fight with. Russia supplied China with the x54R as well.

Basically the ONLY Round used in every major conflict in the past 120 years: X54R

So it wins most deadly in my opinion.
 
1. I would guess 7.62X39mm first, simply because of how prolific AKs and SKSs have been the past six decades, even though they missed out on being used in both world wars, which were by far the bloodiest conflicts in history.
Sorry I'm going to have to call you on that one. The SKS was issued to a few front line units in WW2 as well as a prototype sniper version. If I am not mistaken it was about like the Henry rifle use in the Civil War, not a main combat weapon but a weapon that saw service.
 
if I had to try and make a random guess in order...1 being most:

1. 7.62x39
2. 7.62x54R
3. 7.62x51
4. .30-06
5. 8mm Mauser
6. .303 Brit
7. .45acp
8. 9mm
9. 6.5 Arisaka
10. whatever the hell muskets were made in
 
If i had to guess "Fired most rounds" I'd agree with the 7.62x39.

But (not saying AK's are innaccurate because a good condition one is plenty good enough to hit a man at 500yrds) but have you ever seen the 3rd worlders SHOOT the AK? They SUCK at it. Spray and Pray... the Spray is to put bullets in the Air, the Pray is to put them on target by divine intervention.

x54R was used by MANY troops to shoot and kill Germans, Fins, Russians, Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, Americans, Afghanistanians, Christians, Muslims, Atheists, Western Europeans, Eastern Europeans, Communists, Capitalists, Bolsheviks and Royalty.

My top 10:

7.62x54R
8mm Mauser
30-06
.303
.........

Wait, you know what? The question was What "Caliber"

SO I'm gonna say ".30 Cal"

Covers the 7.62x54R, x39, 30-06, .308, .303, .30 carbine....

I think I win :)
 
I read somewhere it's .22LR. I'm not sure if the stat included wars.

Anyway, the inclusion of wars would not be interesting to me because the soldiers do not have choice of ammo. I'd be interested in the stats taken of only shooters who had choice of ammo.

Actually, I take all that back. This stat is not that interesting at all regardless how it's sliced.

(This same question question pops up about every 3 months.)
 
I'd go with
1. 7.62x54
2. .303 (lots of dead Indians and Zulus not to mention wars)
3. 30-06 (WW1,WW2, and Korea)
4. 7.62x39 ( Vietnam, South America, Middle East, Africa)
5. 9mm (lets not forget submachine guns Sten,MP40, etc.)
6. 45ACP
7. 45LC
8. 8mm Mauser
9. 88mm (you didn't say small arms caliber)
10. I'll throw in the 68 caliber musket round
 
dont forget Uncle Joe (Stalin) killed more people than hitler.
most of those were probably with X54r, X39 or X25
 
I'd guess 7.62x39mm...how long have those guys over there in the Middle East been fighting with AK's??

Along with the guys killed in Vietnam from small arms fire, Central American drug cartels, all other communist countries.
 
dont forget Uncle Joe (Stalin) killed more people than hitler.
most of those were probably with X54r, X39 or X25

I thought Uncle Joe just starved 'em in the gulags. I mean, those communists are pretty cheap, you know. Even with Russian ammo.
 
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