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What fixes/pro gun reforms are most important to you? Buckeye Firearms input request

Discussion in 'Activism Discussion and Planning' started by KnightOfTheOldeCode, Jan 2, 2009.

  1. KnightOfTheOldeCode

    KnightOfTheOldeCode Active Member

    What fixes/pro gun reforms are most important to you?

    BFA Leadership and volunteers will be working to further restore your 2A rights next legislative session.

    What are the must have fixes in everyones opinion?

    Respond to the following linked page so the other Leaders can view and
    take your thoughts into consideration.


    We look forward to your input.
  2. KBintheSLC

    KBintheSLC Well-Known Member

    Since I am not a member over there, I'll post it here...

    For one, we can work to repeal the Brady Bill. One of my best friends in this world has lost his gun ownership rights forever because of a stupid, non-violent crime he committed more than a decade ago as a teen ager (he was using dope, and got busted with a bunch of it). He has since then changed his life completely, and is a hard working, sober family man. He still can't legally defend his family though.

    We should never permanently revoke anyones constitutional rights in this country when they are arrested. Afterall, we all know that criminals can still get guns despite the Brady Bunch.

    Why is the 2A the only right you lose forever...???
    Criminals can currently spout their mouth all they want with THE FIRST, child molesters get to keep their reproductive organs under THE EIGHTH, and they can still deny their own testimony with THE FIFTH. But a "convict" can never again have THE SECOND, even after they have cleaned up their lives and many years have passed.

    Considering the endless slew of ridiculous so-called "felonies" on the books today, the Brady Bill is a despicable violation of our nations most fundamental principles... The Bill of Rights.

    Our founding fathers would never have approved the permanent revocation of any one of our "Bill of Rights" liberties... even for those who have been convicted of a crime in the past.
  3. MartyG

    MartyG Active Member

    Since the Buckeye forum is about Ohio's concerns, I thought I'd provide a little advice to them, given Kansas' two year history of CCH. (We call it Concealed Carry Handgun, because other weapons are still not allowed)
    Our legislators saw the problems with restaurants such as Applebee's, and so our CCH can carry in ANY bar or restaurant that is not posted. It is the responsibility of the CCH not to exceed the legal BAC, or could lose his CCH. They wanted to side-step the whole issue of "is this a restaurant or a bar?" thing. Only govt buildings are allowed to be posted, not parks, byways or open areas. CCH carry is legal even in churches, unless posted. So how did we get this favorable position? A team of smart legislators kept pushing the "if you don't like it, just post it" response. As a result, a lot of places put up signs. Fine. Now, after two years, and the realization that these signs do not prevent bad guys, and they might be losing business, the signs are steadily, but slowly, disappearing. The whole sign exercise has proven to be a method for people to adapt to change. American's will "get over" anything. But they get riled up at change, and that needs to be addressed up front.
  4. BullpupBen

    BullpupBen Well-Known Member

    What I would like to see is some loosening of the ridiculous NFA act. Full autos are a whole different story, but short barreled rifles/shotguns should not require you to be fingerprinted or pay the government a tax. I think that this law would be very easy to get through congress because most anti-gun congress critters really have no idea what would be wrong with having a shorter barrel. I would even be happy if it was just a reform of what the legal limits are, like say 14" for both rifles and shotguns.

    If they at least lowered the amount of the silencer tax, say down to $50, that would be pretty good too. Then people of average means could legally own silencers.
  5. pkoch62

    pkoch62 Well-Known Member

    Also returning the definition of "machine gun" to "a weapon that fires multiple rounds with a single pull of the trigger", no more freaking out over third-pin MAK-90s or semi-only ARs with a single M16 part thrown on a decade ago by someone who didn't know any better.
  6. JImbothefiveth

    JImbothefiveth Well-Known Member

    I'd work on carry. If you're going only on the Ohio state level, lift some restrictions on for instance, carrying at a public gathering.

    On the national level, focus on better reciprocity.
  7. JImbothefiveth

    JImbothefiveth Well-Known Member

    I'd work on carry. If you're going only on the Ohio state level, lift some restrictions on for instance, carrying at a public gathering.

    On the national level, focus on better reciprocity.
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  13. Guitargod1985

    Guitargod1985 Well-Known Member

    ^ I've heard of double taps, but GEEZ!! :neener:

    Seriously, though, I live in Florida, but I'm more concerned for my fellow gun owners who live in such horrid places as Washington, D.C., Chicago (or Illinois in general), NYC, California, etc.

    While it is noble to work for progress in gun rights, we need to do all we can to make sure that all locales are on the same page when it comes to acknowledging everyone's 2A rights, not just those who live in places where the government happens not to have trampled those rights yet.

    Shall issue concealed carry laws are a must. And while I certainly understand that we should not need to ask permission to carry (concealed or otherwise), a national shall issue policy would be a marked improvement, and is something we should be striving for, realistically speaking. This means constantly bombarding your congress critters with pro-2A correspondence that is both competent and persuasive. IF you happen to have representatives that cannot or will not see your point of view, this means letting them know why YOU will not be voting for them and why you will actively campaign for someone else. Maintaining their position in office (and the power that goes with it) is by far the most important thing to any politician, and for some of them, posing a grave threat to that position is the only thing that they will understand.
  14. KnightOfTheOldeCode

    KnightOfTheOldeCode Active Member

    Wow, what happened there Jimbo? Sear get stuck? :neener:

    Great input guys, we work mostly on the Ohio state level but cover national issues as well. We were one of the groups involved with the Heller case for instance. Our website gets more hits than any other guns rights org outside of the NRA according to Alexa and other sites.

    In 07 we were honored by the SAF with their grassroots organization of the year award. In 08 we won the NRAs Gun Rights org of the year.

    So far we've passed CCW, Preemption and Castle in Ohio and won many pro gun court cases. You could say we've been busy, lol.

    Thanks for your support!

  15. KnightOfTheOldeCode

    KnightOfTheOldeCode Active Member

    Rep Adams has Introduced a sweeping Alaska bill "HB129" in the Ohio House!

    We are also working hard on several other fix it bills as well. THanks for your support!

    See Story

    Representative Adams introduces HB129: Alaska-style CCW

    By Jim Irvine

    Representative John Adams (R-78) of Sidney, Ohio has introduced House Bill 129. The bill is identical to Adam's HB225 from 2007, and substantially similar to HB91 from 2005 and HB559 from 2004, the latter two having been sponsored by Representative Tom Brinkman. HB129 would repeal many of the onerous provisions of our current concealed carry law and allow law abiding citizens to carry concealed without a license.

    Alaska-style CCW is an exciting possibility for gun owners in Ohio. It shows Rep. Adams is in touch with the most conservative of the gun owner base/constituency.

  16. TAB

    TAB Well-Known Member

    if I could change 1 thing... it would be to remove all exemptions for LEOs.

    Do that, and most of the gun laws will go away.
  17. pete f

    pete f Well-Known Member

    take cans off the list, but thats federal, not state. they are a benefit to public health like a muffler on a car.
  18. AKElroy

    AKElroy Well-Known Member

    Amen--I have been DYING to take out my neighbors cats for 9 years.
  19. 6_gunner

    6_gunner Well-Known Member

    Personally, I would like to see the NFA repealed. I would also like to see open carry universally accepted.

    I swing for the fence.

    I've gotta say, that's pretty brilliant.
  20. bombmaster

    bombmaster Active Member

    +1 I couldnt agree more

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