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What gun/caliber was used to kill President Kennedy?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by SteelyNirvana, Jun 1, 2007.

  1. SteelyNirvana

    SteelyNirvana Well-Known Member

    President Kennedy's death was way before my time(I'm 25) and I've never known which gun/caliber was used to assassinate him. I hope this doesn't get a big "conspiracy theory" thread started:p
  2. Vern Humphrey

    Vern Humphrey Well-Known Member

    It was an Italian Mannlicher-Carcano in 6.5 X 52 Carcano.
  3. Cpl Nobbs

    Cpl Nobbs Well-Known Member

    it was a pulse rifle in the 40 watt range of course.
  4. ArmedBear

    ArmedBear Well-Known Member

    Carcano rifle loaded with magic bullets.
  5. Grump

    Grump Well-Known Member

    Anyone truly interested in getting past all the hyperbole, supposition, blathering and exaggerations regarding this topic would be very well served to look up what Massad Ayoob had to write about his own actual test of making that shot, with a comparable rifle and optics, with a panel of shooters of various skill levels.

    Case Closed. There is yet another book out on it which reaches a similar conclusion. I happen to disagree with Ayoob's theory on something like a .220 Swift being used for a frontal headshot. Surely possible but the same thing *can* happen with a lower-velocity rear headshot.
  6. MrPeter

    MrPeter Well-Known Member

    I can't say what show it was since I don't remember, but there was an in-depth investigation on how that shot was made, and the conclusion was that it could have been made with one shot that wasn't magic, just extremely lucky.

  7. JimmyN

    JimmyN Well-Known Member

    The grassy knoll gunman was also using a Mannlicher-Carcano, as he needed to use the same 6.5 x 52 magic bullets.

    That one was equipped with some tactical improvements though, to enhance effectiveness:
    Non-glare wood fence camo finish
    Bayonet lug
    High capacity magazine
    Flash suppressor
    Barrel shroud
    Pistol grip forearm and stock
    Shoulder thing that goes up
  8. psegnatelli

    psegnatelli Member

    The only thing I have to add is the photos of the rifle. I see two different rifles. One has sling attached to the heel of the buttstock, then in another photo the sling is attached to the side.
  9. SaMx

    SaMx Well-Known Member

    "the shoulder thing that goes up" makes the gun extra deadly.
  10. longeyes

    longeyes member

    Distance was 88 yards, is that right? With scope?
  11. Gator

    Gator Well-Known Member

    58 yards for the first shot, 88 yards for the third according to Wikipedia.

    The Carcano has had a bad rap as a cheap, inaccurate rifle ever since Oswald made it famous, but they really aren't that bad.
  12. slzy

    slzy Well-Known Member

    with the kgb,cia,cuban govt,cuban refugees,retired ss,mafia,jesuits,dallas police,fbi,all firing at the same time,they could'nt miss.
  13. Eightball

    Eightball Well-Known Member

    It was the CIA, in league with the Aliens.

    On a slightly serious note, is that a carbine, or the carcano rifle? It looks to be a carbine with a scope mounted, though everyone refers to it as the Carcano "rifle".......weird.
  14. SteelyNirvana

    SteelyNirvana Well-Known Member

    I know I am doing what I said I didn't want to do but.....

    When the History channel was airing an all weekend thing on the 40th anniversary of his death they showed Kennedy getting shot frame by frame. It honestly looked like the back of his head exploded,which means that the shot had to come from the front (grassy knoll). Right?, or was I just imagining things?. I know from many years of shooting at various objects that the entrance hole is small round and clean while the exit hole is bigger and opened up.
  15. SteelyNirvana

    SteelyNirvana Well-Known Member

    What about Robert Kennedy?. The Wiki article on him says it was a .22 revolver. The article on Sirhan Sirhan says it was an Iver Johnson automatic. So which was it?
  16. lamazza

    lamazza Well-Known Member

    6 shot revolver and he attacked form the front...Odd how kennedy's back was hit and several bystanders as well...
  17. SaMx

    SaMx Well-Known Member

    The national geographic special I saw on Robert Kennedy said it was a 10 shot .22 revolver.
  18. default

    default Well-Known Member

    I am of the opinion that conspiracy theories about the Kennedy assassination are largely believed by people who have never shot a rifle. That a Marine could repeatedly hit a slowly-moving target less than 100 yards away with a scoped centerfire bolt-action rifle does not strike me as being at all remarkable.

    For example, the average conspiracy theorist scornfully drops the phrase "bolt-action rifle" as if bolt-action rifles are somehow intrinsically less accurate than self-loading rifles. Strange then that the Army and Marine Corps still equip snipers with them...to make shots at 10 times the distance Oswald made his.
  19. 270Win

    270Win Well-Known Member

    Although, I remember reading from several sources that Oswald's marksmanship scores were among the worst possible...

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