What if Kerry wins?

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I'm actually optimistic that Bush will win for two reasons:

1) The mass media outlets spin everything to favor Kerry; if they're saying it's a dead heat, GWB must have a significant advantage.

2) While the GOP has never mastered the 11th hour dirty tricks as has the Democratic Party, GWB has an "unintentional ally" in 2004: THE CLINTONS! If Kerry wins, Hillary will have an uphill battle in 2008. I'm awaiting the "October Surprise" engineered by the Clintons to sink Kerry's ship.

It's always fun watching rats fight. :cool:
 
I think that Bush will win by 4%-5%, and will have in excess of 300 Electoral Votes. Even if he does, we'll have litigation that must be resolved by the Supreme Court. However, there is always a chance that Lurch could win. So, here's my scenario (take note, HM, I'll stand behind what I say now):

1) Regardless of the Presidential race, the Republicans will pick up 2-3 Senate seats and about 10 House seats. Thus, if the Republicans want to stop anything that Kerry proposes, they'll be able to do so, except for Executive Orders and foreign policy-type decisions. Of course, this will require that the Republicans grow a collective pair of stones, but I think that being out of control of the Executive Branch will help to facilitate that result. Nonetheless, the federal judiciary will become far more Leftist, thereby continuing and even accelerating the marginalization of most of the Constitution.

2) There may be some slight increases in taxes, but there will be LOTS more regulation of all types. Look also for lots of additional legislation in the area of the environment, and look for actual or threatened litigation to effectively control several industries (oil, guns, possibly drugs). Look for thousands of doctors to be leaving practice, as the regulatory stranglehold on medicine will grow tighter, driving down physician compensation. We won't be doing much additional drilling for oil (forget ANWR) or making any new refineries (still - we haven't done this since the late 1960's), so the price of oil and gas will remain high. Look for subsidies for solar energy, conservation and fuel cells.

3) Regarding guns, I am quite pessimistic. The Brady Bunch and their fellow travelers have been uniquely ineffective for the last 4 years because of who was in the White House. Kerry was right in asserting that Bush could've lobbied for the renewal of the AWB (and I'm damned glad that he didn't) - which is exactly what Kerry will do. I agree with MBane666 that he'll have to show dramatic "progress" somewhere, and since he'll have a decided lack of that domestically, we gunowners will be a big fat juicy target. After all, how many people own ARs, AKs, etc., and how many of them are very involved politically? We are, let's face it, an easy group to demonize, and most Republicans in office don't give enough of a damn about gun owners to put up with the public ridicule and accusations. Here's my list of coming restrictions:

a) The AWB will be back, bigger & badder. The list of banned guns will be longer, the list of permitted restricted features will be down to 1 of the 5 for semi-autos, instead of 2. Kiss your newly-produced semi-auto guns goodbye. Mags will once again be limited to 10. All of this will be PERMANENT, so that getting rid of it will be very much more difficult. It is POSSIBLE that a new AWB will have a grandfather clause, requiring registration. That won't go over well, and will have 90% plus non-compliance, but it will be on the books nonetheless. Look for such a thing if there's a massacre of schoolkids with a "permitted" version of a banned semi-auto.

b) .50 cal. guns will be either outlawed or treated as NFA guns on a national level.

c) Kiss gun shows and private transfers goodbye. All you need for that to pass the House and Senate by 99%-1% majorities will be one Beslan-type incident. Hell, such an incident could be used to justify an outright confiscation of semi-autos, but I WON'T predict that (but under President Hitlery I would).

d) Further restrictions/higher costs for FFL's, severely reducing the number out there (thus reducing competition and increasing prices - and insidiously reducing gun ownership by pricing more people out of the market). Possible disappearance of the C&R license, especially if some politician is whacked with a 75-year-old "weapon of war."

e) Possible restrictions or big taxes on the sale of smokeless powder or primers (either one will kill reloading).

I doubt that Kennedy and Kerry will be able to get almost all centerfire ammo effectively banned, but they'll use the threat of trying it to obtain something else (like the ban on private transfers). Once we swallow all of that, more will come, though it may have to wait for a different President.

4) Foreign and defense policy - here will be the real disaster. Kerry's mere election will embolden terrorists and nations that wish to see us at least taken down a peg. We'll end up pulling out of Iraq like we did in Vietnam, because even though Kerry will try to stay there for a while (to show how tough he is), the knowledge that we're leaving will cause many attacks on our troops, hastening the exit. The only other country besides England that will stick with us will be Israel, and the terrorists and the nations that support them will grow stronger. Look for at least one massive attack on US soil within a year after Kerry takes office - and be guaranteed that he, the rest of the Dems and the MSM blame Bush for it.

China will become an increasing threat, especially as Kerry begins to propose cuts to future weapons systems. After a couple of years of cuts, the Republicans will do what they did in the late '70's - add stuff into the budget that the President doesn't want.

2008 will be an interesting political year, just as 1980 was. Probably the results will be similar - because the public can elect freaks like Carter and Kerry, but we can't keep them around for very long.

5) Look for a number of 1sts from the First Lady, including telling some foreign leader that he's an @sshole.
 
4) Foreign and defense policy - here will be the real disaster. Kerry's mere election will embolden terrorists and nations that wish to see us at least taken down a peg. We'll end up pulling out of Iraq like we did in Vietnam, because even though Kerry will try to stay there for a while (to show how tough he is), the knowledge that we're leaving will cause many attacks on our troops, hastening the exit. The only other country besides England that will stick with us will be Israel, and the terrorists and the nations that support them will grow stronger. Look for at least one massive attack on US soil within a year after Kerry takes office - and be guaranteed that he, the rest of the Dems and the MSM blame Bush for it.

I definitely agree with this one. It worries me more than the gun stuff. We can fight long and hard on that one. Foreign policy is run by the President though and we won't have much input.

What's that expression? "Poisoning the well?" That's basically what Kerry has done with Bush and Iraq. He has had to make the whole thing sound so ill-conceived and flat out doomed that he won't be able to hold the line there even if he wants to. The majority of the people who elected him will be screaming for us to withdraw. As the attacks increase, those screams will get louder and shriller. The only solution will be to say that, "This isn't my fault. Bush left me with this disaster" and withdraw. And that WILL have a very bad long term impact on US foreign policy.

People always like to talk about "the lessons of Vietnam" but they seem to overlook one of the biggies on a regular basis: be loyal to your allies and don't leave them when things get tough domestically. A lot of small countries stopped trusting us after we bailed on South Vietnam. The same thing will happen over Iraq if we run out before we finish the job. No matter how much blood and treasure it costs us, the alternatives will cost more.

Gregg
 
Sam, you predict an awful lot of anti-gun legislation coming out of a Congress that you also predict will be even more under the control of our “pro-gun Republican friends.â€

~G. Fink
 
The only thing I know for sure is that I'll be buying a RR carbine, and I'm not an M16/AR15 lover. Kerry co-sponsored the last attempt at renewing the AWB, and also strengthened it to elimate certain weapons.

True, it takes congress to go along, but if we have another Columbine, who knows what will happen. Congress is a mass of pandering idiots, for the most part, in any event.

Yep, buying that carbine.
 
Sam,

Duly noted.

Don't go too far away...I'll only need about two years (instead of four) to debunk some of your predictions...not to mention the "Democratic Revolution" of 2006.
 
IF Kerry wins (big IF), I'm gonna sit back and watch the circus. Think about where we are now and what might happen over the next 4 years. For example, there is NO WAY any president will be able to stop a terrorist attack here sometime in the next 4 years. We get to see Kerry take the heat and sooth the blubbering masses. Illegal immigration is nearing critical mass and will have to be addressed. The national debt is staggering; when will inflation begin again? We've become a nation of consumers of cheap third world sweatshop produced junk; that cannot continue indefinitely. Plus more and more of our 'citizens' will be clamoring for .gov handouts and Kerry will have to deliver or become a one termer. Healthcare is already beginning to be rationed and it will get worse as there are fewer and fewer providers and more and more demand. heh. We can't even provide ourselves with enough flu vaccine or pharmaceuticals-even individual states are looking to Canada now. I fully expect him to deliver a healthcare plan for every American equal to what members of Congress now have. Oh, and it will be entertaining to see him and Edwards make Christopher Reeves arise from his wheelchair and walk.:p As far as any goofy gun controls laws he and his buds may pass, molon labe, lefties. Besides, it will be a hoot to whine, complain and criticize every little thing. :D
 
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On the record, hm......

If Kerry wins, gunowners will lose - big time.

Look for:

Permanent AWB and the ending of legal private sales at gunshows and pressure to end private sales in general.

Expanded powers for BATFE.

Bans of selected semi auto firearms.

Renewed litigation against firearms manufacturers.

Euphemize "anti-gun John" all you want, his election will be a disaster when compared to our relative gains of the past four years.:scrutiny:

And you can own up to it should (heaven forbid) the time come.;)
 
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