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What semi auto pistols have "fixed" barrels?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by waldonbuddy, Jul 28, 2009.

  1. waldonbuddy

    waldonbuddy member

    I have owned two, a Desert Eagle, and a Walther P22. Both had fixed barrels, and to me, they were very accurate. I know that is subjective, and I dont want to start a why do you want this, kind of thread. Its just my preference.

    I know that I can get revolvers with fixed barrels and I do own a S&W 500 that I enjoy when I can afford to shoot it.

    I just wondered which semi's have fixed besides the above mentioned and the 44 Automag, and Wildey.
  2. Zoogster

    Zoogster Well-Known Member

    Most blowback designs, which are ususaly limited to small calibers.

    Far fewer larger caliber pistols.
    Many carbine weapons that are in reality rifle or carbine platforms legaly produced under federal law as pistols would as well.
    An AK or AR pistol for example, though there is many others.
    Many PDW pistol type weapons as well, though many are legaly SBR or AOWs. Such as semi-auto versions of the HK MP7 or MP5K.
    If you can locate such weapons with no butt stock, that legally are meant to be fired with a single hand, and have no forward grip, and are produced as pistols from the factory in compliance with federal law, then they certainly would have fixed barrels and legaly be just handguns.
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2009
  3. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    All blow-back operated pistols in .22RF, .25, .32, , 380 ACP, and 9mm MAK have fixed barrels. But except for the .22RF target pistols, none will be winning any accuracy contests!

    Very few higher power pistols (9mm & up) have fixed barrels because they must have a locked-breach action, and a short recoil Browning design moving barrel is the simplest way to do that.

    Some other fixed barrel firearms in larger calibers include the German Luger, (toggle locked) and Wildy & DE, (gas operated rotating bolt).

    There are a few other more obscure obsolete guns, but you won't find many modern designs in larger then .380 ACP power level.

    Last edited: Jul 28, 2009
  4. earlthegoat2

    earlthegoat2 Well-Known Member

    I know any blowback gun does so that leaves,

    HK P7 and the variants
    Walther PP and PPK
    Sig 230 and 232
    NAA Guardian 32 and 380
    Broomhandle Mauser
    Ruger MK I, II, and III
    Browning BDA
    Beretta Cheetahs
    AMT Automag 44 might, not sure, might be long recoil operated
    CZ 82 and 83
    dang near any 22 caliber
    Seecamp 32 and 380
    Most Saturday Night Special Gun Valley offerings (Lorcin, Davis, Cobra, Raven, Jimenez, Jennings)
  5. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    You got a whole lot of blow-back .32's & .380's on your list.

  6. earlthegoat2

    earlthegoat2 Well-Known Member

  7. Ash

    Ash Well-Known Member

    The Luger is not blow back and the barrel, while mated to the slide, moves during recoil. Therefore, it cannot be considered fixed as it is designed to move and most certainly does move. But if you mean that straight-line operation is required, then that would include the Berretta 92 and 951, the Walther P38, the Finnish and Swedish Lahti, to name but a few.

  8. lechiffre

    lechiffre Well-Known Member

    hk p7

  9. Frightener 88

    Frightener 88 Well-Known Member

    Ruger 22/45
  10. waldonbuddy

    waldonbuddy member

    Here is another question.

    Which type is more accurate, and why?
    I know my DE was right on the money if you could hold it steady, shooting it on a bench was very accurate for me {didn't like the factory "combat" front sights}, and my wife's P22 is also dead on target {I know alot of people would argue me on that, but I shoot well with it}.
    I have two S&W semi's with floating barrels. One is a 669, 9mm. The other is a 4556 in a 45.
    Both S&W are great pistols, but don't hold accuracy shooting from the bench. Don't get me wrong, I love both my SW semi's they are great, reliable, and I carry the 9mm most everyday.
    It would seem to me that a fixed barrel on any gun would be more accurate since the barrel isn't wobbling in the receiver as the bullet goes through.

    I know that recoil will move the whole gun fixed, or not, but it just seems to me that the wobble of the barrel would occur sooner than movement of your wrist, etc.
  11. Frank Ettin

    Frank Ettin Moderator

    Nonetheless, a well set up 1911 can be amazingly accurate. Think about some 1911s set up for top level Bullseye competition. Les Baer offers 1911s guaranteed to group 1.5 inches at 50 yards. Folks I trust who own such Les Baers have reported them to be completely reliable.

    Then again, look at post #4. A number of the guns on that list aren't particularly noted for accuracy.
  12. doubs43

    doubs43 Well-Known Member

    The Benelli B-76 & B-80 in 9mm & 7.65 Parabellum respectfully are true fixed barrel pistols. They use a swinging link much like the P-38 except the link is above the barrel rather than below it. The Benelli pistols are quite accurate, reliable and well made.

    Link to a picture of the B-80 in .30 Luger: http://www.littlegun.be/arme italienne/benelli b 80-03.jpg
  13. waldonbuddy

    waldonbuddy member

    Nice looking pistol.........B80
  14. waldonbuddy

    waldonbuddy member

    When I was considering a Wildey 475 I did a quite a bit of research on them.

    They, as noted, have a fixed barrel, and are supposed to be extremely

    accurate, just as the Automag {when both actually work, that is}.
  15. oneounceload

    oneounceload member

    The P7 is one of the most accurate stock pistols around - fixed barrel and all......
  16. Jim Watson

    Jim Watson Well-Known Member

    The Sokolovsky Automaster had a fixed barrel, running in a form of retarded blowback. It was meant for 50 yard bullseye shooting, if you could afford one of the 50 made.

  17. Landpimp

    Landpimp Well-Known Member

    HK P9S, uses a barrel that is fixed(but not like most, and dont ask me to splane it) its one of the best 9mm to put a can on and even the most basic version will shoot like darn near no other(even the P7)
  18. Landpimp

    Landpimp Well-Known Member

    oh and dont forget the HK SP89....its a pistol
  19. Ash

    Ash Well-Known Member

    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Astra 300, 400, & 600.
  20. Mags

    Mags Well-Known Member

    Walther P22 and it looks and feels like a toy, I know it was mentioned in the first posts.

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