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What should I do?

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by LJ-MosinFreak-Buck, Sep 23, 2011.

  1. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

    LJ-MosinFreak-Buck Well-Known Member

    Okay, so back in February I put the payment down on my Astra. March I took the pistol home. Between then and April the grips cracked (I hate plastic) and I took it to the place I bought it from to have them put some nice wood ones on (ebony).

    I have been waiting 6, almost 7 months for the grips to be done, all the while this place has my frame and I have my slide.:cuss:

    Is it really necessary to take this long on grips? They're charging me $100 for these grips, and it was expressed that it shouldn't take longer than a month or two.

    What should I do? Do I keep doing business with these guys? This isn't my first problem with this place. A couple months back I laid payment down on an AK. Shop owner said he would order the rifle in, never did. So I got my money back. Suggestions?
  2. Remllez

    Remllez Well-Known Member

    They lost your frame!!......:) just kidding!! I wouldn't do business with them anymore.
  3. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

    LJ-MosinFreak-Buck Well-Known Member

    That's been my thought exactly.
  4. David E

    David E Well-Known Member

    For $100, are they making these grips especially for this gun? Did you specify a certain exotic wood? If so, then they clearly are waiting for the exotic tree they planted to grow big enough to harvest the grip panels....

    Seems to me that you failed to do your own homework to see what grips are out there for your Astra. Find some via internet, order them, spend 3 minutes putting them on.
  5. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    Run, don't walk to the gun shop and get your frame back, ASAP!

    We had a similar gun shop situation here in town.
    The guy had a whole back room full of guns people had left for simple repairs like recoil pads and cleaning.
    He was good at tearing guns apart and throwing all the parts in a box.
    But not so good about ever getting around to putting them back together.

    Many of the guns owners had been waiting for well over a year.

    Then he declared bankruptcy, went out of business, and left town.
    A whole bunch of the guns & parts were sold at auction, because the owners had been waiting so long they had lost the claim slips and couldn't prove the guns were theirs.

  6. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

    LJ-MosinFreak-Buck Well-Known Member

    Talked to the 'smith on the phone couple days ago. Guy outsources pistol grips to another. I trust 'em both, they both helped me choose the gun. They didn't push it on me, the coached me through the process. My first pistol was supposed to be a 1911, but they taught me that it's better to walk before you run.

    The guy making the grips already had the wood in stock. I'm going to give the 'smith a call today. What should I tell him? I really would like the grips finished, the guy does great work on grips for 1911, beretta, and a lot of off-shoots, that's why I let the guy do the work in the first place.

    Since it took as long as it did, should I ask for a discount?

    I couldn't find any other grips for the Astra, either. I won't use eBay, and I don't like bidding for parts or the guns themselves. I only seen one set of grips on GB (just to see if any after marked ones were out there) and for oak grips they wanted 110. No way. Might as well spend that much on something that's going to look better.
  7. TennJed

    TennJed Well-Known Member

    Well if you are stuck using them because they are your only option for that gun I don't know what else to do.....I would in no way use them in the future for any common purchase or to get something done you can somewhere else.

    I have had grips made for my revolvers by custom makers before. It should take no more than 4-6 weeks to get them back. ......unless this guy has a backlog a mile long 6-7 months is unacceptable for work
  8. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

    LJ-MosinFreak-Buck Well-Known Member

    I got off the phone with the 'smith a couple minutes ago. Asked him what the situation was on the grips. Said the guy was supposed to have had them done this weekend or so, but hasen't heard from him for a couple days. I guess he's been sick, according to the 'smith.

    Told him I've waited darn near 7 months and that it shouldn't take that long to get a set of grips done and he says, "Well, you're right it shouldn't. I'll tell him to get his toosh to work and get 'em finished for ya."

    So hopefully real soon. I've got my fingers crossed, but I am not going to hold my breath. I'm about to tell him I'm only going to pay $25.00 for them just for the time it took. :banghead::banghead::banghead:
  9. Doogle

    Doogle Well-Known Member

    I'm reminded of the old joke...>

    ..about an ex-GI on a visit to Berlin 30 years after WWII. He's wandering the streets, reminiscing, when he spies the very watchmaker's shop he left a watch at before having to ship quickly out of the country. He is surprised that the shop still exists, and even more surprised when he enters the shop and recognises the same watchmaker behind the bench, a little older and grayer.

    He describes the watch he left for repair and asks the watchmaker if by any chance it was still there.

    The old watchmaker goes into the back of the shop and after a short while reappears and says, "It'll be ready on Tuesday".

    I hope you get your grips soon.
  10. David E

    David E Well-Known Member

    This guy isn't doing you any favors.

    You went in to buy a 1911, but they "guide" you to an Astra that's impossible to find grips for.....on which the original grips cracked requiring a replacement....I wonder how much fun you'll have finding other parts for it...

    He dumped a crap gun on you that probably sat on his shelf a very long time.
  11. The Lone Haranguer

    The Lone Haranguer Well-Known Member

    I think you should get your frame and deposit or payment back ASAP.

    Subcontracting is done all the time and may partially explain the situation, but doesn't excuse it. The guy who has your frame is the primary contractor, and the onus is on him.

    At least when Milt Sparks says it will take 5-6 months to make your holster, they are up front about it.
  12. RussB

    RussB Well-Known Member

    It takes a day to make grips

    7 months and a $100...Why do you deal with this place? Stop being so foolish
  13. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

    LJ-MosinFreak-Buck Well-Known Member

    This is the first bad thing I've ever experienced with this shop.

    The pistol is actually pretty decent. It's got a weak spring problem with the mag, but otherwise functions perfect. No failures to eject, and when the pistol does "hang up" with the weak mag springs, a soft bump to the slide remedies the problem for the rest of the mag.

    He guided me to this pistol because this is my first pistol. I wanted a 1911, but what I forgot to explain was he let me test fire a few pistols (including his personal 1911 and this Astra A-90) and we both determined that the Astra was the better choice. It fit my hand at least 10x better than the 1911 did and I was more accurate.

    Keep in mind, when I bought the Astra, the pistol (not including magazines) was about 97%. Showed a little bit of holster wear, but not much, mainy a little on the trigger guard and by the front sight.

    The cracks came from me, but I'm not sure what caused them, when I brought the pistol home there weren't and cosmetic defects minus what was already worn.

    This pistol is going to help me hone my pistol skills, and eventually I'll just get a used, good condition 1911 and get used to it for carry and what-not.
  14. RussB

    RussB Well-Known Member

    He guided you to that Astra because he wanted to dump it onto an inexperienced newbie ;)
  15. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

    LJ-MosinFreak-Buck Well-Known Member

    I still had a say in the matter though, lol :). I like the pistol, and despite those two small problems, it's a pretty good little pistol. He didn't get to test fire it before that day we went and test-fired all of the pistols to help me decide, and the magazine issue surprised him, but I told him it wasn't a huge deal.
  16. woad_yurt

    woad_yurt Well-Known Member

    Astras are good guns. What's wrong with them?
  17. RussB

    RussB Well-Known Member

    Good is a relative term. There are many good guns, some are just "gooder" than others

    The OP is experiencing one caveat of an obscure firearm. Parts availability and customer support. Break a grip panel, and his gun is down for 6+ months? And where do you go to replace the weak mag springs?
  18. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

    LJ-MosinFreak-Buck Well-Known Member

    The mags look pretty similar to an 92FS mag, and the Astra mags hold 15 rounds, so I think the Berettas might work. Or a SIG 22(0-9? one of them) might, the A-90 borrowed a lot of features from the SIG.
  19. Jim Watson

    Jim Watson Well-Known Member

    And that is assuming that it really IS weak magazine springs and not Something Else that would be harder to fix.

    Wolff is the main supplier of gun springs but does not list the A90.
    You could look at a number of different guns and try the magazine spring from a gun most nearly similar to the Astra.
  20. LJ-MosinFreak-Buck

    LJ-MosinFreak-Buck Well-Known Member

    Had a thread about it, someone said the A-75 mag springs would work. I don't think it's the feed ramp though, it does it with FMJ and JHP's.

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