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What to use against bears?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Alan Fud, Sep 28, 2003.

  1. Alan Fud

    Alan Fud Well-Known Member

    I was going to put this in the huning section but I'm not really interested in "hunting" but more for the purpose of self-defense which is why I am posting it here. If the staff feels that this is not the proper place for it, kindly move it to the more appropriate forum and please accept my apologies in advance.

    I've been seeing a recent increase in bear attacks and since I live in an area where bears have been spotted from time to time, I was curious if I would be better armed with a 6-shot Mossberg 500® Pump Action "Mariner®"

    or a 4-shot Marlin lever action Model 1895G Guide Gun in 45/70 Gov't. caliber

    Opinions please?
  2. Stevie-Ray

    Stevie-Ray Well-Known Member

    Tough choice, but of those two, I'd probably opt for the Marlin. .45-70 is good bear medicine. In Grizzly country, though, I'd probably tote my SAR-48.
  3. 10-Ring

    10-Ring Well-Known Member

    I'd go w/ the 6 shot shotgun
  4. HeavyHaul

    HeavyHaul Active Member

    The 45-70 would have better penetration. However, as few bear attacks as there are in the country, and if you stay "bear smart" IE, don't give the bears a reason to attack, the Mossberg would be a better choice. It could be used for dual purposes. Bear defense, and home defense. Most bear attacks could have been avoided. Keep food where they can't get to it, stay away from Mothers with cubs, keep garbage in bearproof containers, and lastly, don't annoy them if possible.

  5. Balog

    Balog Well-Known Member

    I'd get a Mossie 590 [8 shots] or an older 8 shot park'ed Ithaca. If it were me I'd get the Ithaca. The lack of a disconnect lets it be fired a bit quicker, or so I hear.
  6. Matt G

    Matt G Moderator Emeritus

  7. Preacherman

    Preacherman Well-Known Member

    Yeah, Matt, they're getting unbearable...

    :neener: :p :D
  8. C.R.Sam

    C.R.Sam Moderator Emeritus

    Please bear with us whilst we boldly beef bout bountious bare bear threads.:D

  9. sm

    sm member

    Boy I'm disapointed in this bunch. I've been waiting and kinda figured Sam would mention.... teenagers and M 80's...:D

    I tend to go with wearing tennis shoes and being able to outrun anybody with me...all I go to do is outrun them...their problem if they can't outrun the bear. Firearm...good holter, good belt as always...one addendum...doesn't impede my running...I knew someday all that cross country running might come in handy :D
  10. New_comer

    New_comer Well-Known Member

    I'd take my Rem 870P extended 6+1 loaded with 00 buckshot and slugs.

    No wild bear here, but hey, there's a zoo that keeps one 8 miles thataway... ;)
  11. illuminatus99

    illuminatus99 Well-Known Member

    what would be a bear-proof container? an abrams?
  12. Mark Tyson

    Mark Tyson Well-Known Member

    If you opt for the shotgun, use some of those Brenneke slugs for maximum penetration. Actually, one of the best weapons may not be a gun: chemical bear spray.
  13. Tamara

    Tamara Senior Member

    A man gets bitten by a grizzly in the wilds of Alaska, which drives a citizen of Pennsylvania to arm up for potential black bear attacks...

    Behold the mighty power of the internet! :scrutiny:
  14. WT

    WT Well-Known Member

    Please bear with me.

    In New Jersey there have been 3 bear attacks against humans this year. There have also been about 35 home break-ins by black bears. Bears have also been killing farm animals.

    One NJ farmer got himself a bunch of guard llamas. Seems they kick the living heck out of feral dogs and bears.

    It probably bears saying that bears are not just an Alaskan problem.
  15. Keith

    Keith Well-Known Member

    Either option would be just fine for your situation.

    Why not make a choice based on secondary uses of the gun? The Mossberg would make an excellent choice for two legged home invaders. The Marlin would make an excellent choice for hunting (and is more fun to play with at the range...).

  16. TallPine

    TallPine Well-Known Member

    There have been six different bears seen in my Mom's neighborhood in Colorado Springs, living on garbage and family pets, apparently. This is an established neighborhood well inside the city limits, not a new development up in the foothills.

    Nice result of some idiotic people amending the state constitution to prohibit spring bear hunts.

    Only a matter of time until someone gets hurt, IMO.
  17. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

    You could go with a platoon armed with Brown Bess muskets. They shoot a one ounce ball and with about 30 ounces of lead, that's almost two pounds of stopping power. :D

    OK, I'd go 45-70 over 12 ga.
  18. Kharn

    Kharn Well-Known Member

    I'd go with the one with the least obtrusive front sight. :evil:

  19. Bigjake

    Bigjake Well-Known Member

    well, everyone knows that a .223 is more than enough to take any animal with a good aimed shot.... :scrutiny:

    If you're really that paramnoid about bears, go 45-70
  20. El Tejon

    El Tejon Well-Known Member

    For bears I use the same thing that I use for unicorns--magic pixie dust. When I see a bear, I throw the dust on him and he disappears into the creative imagination of the Internet.

    Please stand by while I use my Vulcan mind meld powers on Alan:

    "There are no bears. They exist only in the lies of gun hacks and fictional stories about someone's second counsin in the gun shoppe.

    There were bears here. We did our manly duty and shot them all dead. The bears will not hurt you because they do not exist. If do see a bear, kill it like you're suppossed to."

    Whew! [wipes sweat away] That'll be the last of the bear threads.

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