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What was George H Bush's Executive Order?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Golden_006, Dec 30, 2009.

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  1. Golden_006

    Golden_006 Well-Known Member

    I was reading about the Bloomberg proposal which he would like to pretty much ban everything imported for military purposes since that's what G H Bush's executuve order did(?) What exactly was it? I can't find the specifics anywhere.

    Incidentally the report also claims that the GOA (?) report said something like 29% of imported arms to Mexico's drug gangs were from the US? Are they just making stuff up at this point; I can't find anything with google to verify any of this stuff.
  2. douglasmorris99

    douglasmorris99 New Member

    my understanding and best recollection is only 17% of the guns found in raids in Mexico come from the USA

    I can assume the majority were stolen or straw-man purchases..
    I dont know what GWB signed, sorry
  3. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Well-Known Member

    I don't know where to find the Bush XO either.

    The guns identified in those raids were selected only because they were the ones that the Mexicans thought could be identified AT ALL. They didn't even submit any guns which they reasonably believed were from Africa, China, the former Soviet Union, etc. They didn't submit the ones the already knew DIDN'T come from the U.S. .
  4. Harvey

    Harvey Well-Known Member

    Last Summer, according to Hillary, "Mexico's drug killings are due to American gun laws". That balloon of hers didn't float very well, but we'll still need to keep on eye on her.
  5. divemedic

    divemedic Well-Known Member

    George H Bush signed an executive order in 1989 banning the importation of semiautomatic rifles that had certain characteristics. That ban was the precursor to the AWB from the Clinton era. The Bushes were almost as bad for gun owners as the Clintons.
  6. 308win

    308win Well-Known Member

    Neither cabal trusts the commoners.
  7. StarDust1

    StarDust1 Well-Known Member

    GWB stated that he'd be happy to sign the AWB back into law for good, if only it could get to his desk! He was dead serious....
  8. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Well-Known Member

    How do you know how serious he was? The popular consensus here is that he said it knowing it would never GET to his desk. That isn't good, but it's not as bad as an administration that actively SEEKS to make sure that it DOES make it to the president's desk to get signed.

    Folks, If you're waiting for the perfect candidate, you will be waiting for a long time.
  9. divemedic

    divemedic Well-Known Member

    Ah yes, the very popular, "Vote for me, because at least I am not as bad as the other guy."
  10. sophijo

    sophijo Well-Known Member


    George Who? :)
  11. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Well-Known Member

    That is the ONLY game in politics. It is ALWAYS the least worst choice.
  12. mp510

    mp510 Well-Known Member

    IIRC, he also said that he didn't want it to come to his desk- kind of like playing both sides of the aisle. As much as we like to consider W a rogue who could care less about others' opinions, the AWB was one of those issues that he would have given the people (through their reps) what they wanted. At least he openly advocated for some favorable gun legislation- both as governor and president.

    As bad as HW was, we could have done worse. While he wasn'ta 2A die-hard, he didn't push for a full AWB. Rather, he implemented a protectionist import revgulation (whcih some in the firearms industry supported, because it eliminated some cheap competition). HW was known to carry for personal protection and hunt. He may even have been an NRA lifer at one point.

    We have gotten to a point where the argument no longer is right v. no right. We argue now about semantics and particularities (like AWBs and the like). That's favorable progress.
  13. wishin

    wishin Well-Known Member

  14. Dokkalfar

    Dokkalfar Well-Known Member

    As to the US's contribution to Mexican guns, here's the Fox story on that:


    Basically Mexico only submitted firearms they thought could be traced to the US... and of those, most were probably government-sold ones that Mexican soldiers sold after deserting the military. Besides, if anyone knows where to find all those AKs and full automatic rifles here in the US, I would love to know where you can buy them.
  15. Autolycus

    Autolycus Well-Known Member

    Bush and Reagan hate gun owners. As far as Bush carrying and double talking about signing another AWB, he was as bad as his father. The people who defend him should provide support for their statements rather than anecdotal stories. I suspect they do that simply so they can justify voting for an anti-gun candidate.
  16. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Well-Known Member

    Why should the burden of proof not fall on you?
  17. JohnKSa

    JohnKSa Well-Known Member

    By the rules of polite debate, it should fall on StarDust1 since he made the initial assertion.
    Not so. I decided I would no longer compromise and so now I vote only for candidates that perfectly represent my views.

    Therefore I always vote for myself as a write-in. Anything else would compromise my principles since no one else is the perfect candidate.

    Anyone else with principles will do the same and vote for themselves as a write-in.

    After all, we all know it's not about who gets elected, it's all about not compromising.

    Now how come there's not a sarcasm smiley? :D
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2010
  18. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Well-Known Member

    Ok, if you think Bush and McCain were so terrible, explain how we would be better off now if Gore and Kerry had chosen the last two Supreme Court Justices.
  19. JohnKSa

    JohnKSa Well-Known Member

    Pardon me, my good man, but you see, I was using SARRRRCASM! :evil:
  20. mljdeckard

    mljdeckard Well-Known Member

    I couldn't tell whom it was directed toward.
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