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Whatever happened to the Uzi?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by BBQJOE, Feb 23, 2013.


    BBQJOE Well-Known Member

    When I was much younger, all the talk was about Uzi's.
    I seem to remember people losing it, and using them to wreak havoc, or commit crimes.
    Of course they were full auto's. I don't remember them being legal at any point, or were they back in the past before certain laws were enacted?
    Anyway, the media was all over them much like they are now over "assault" weapons.
    Where did they go?
    Did they all go under ground? We're they somehow collected and destroyed?

    It might be interesting to trace back what happened then, and maybe learn something.
  2. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Well-Known Member

    As I recall, Uzi importation was restricted by George H. W. Bush. All of their semi-auto rifles were essentailly banned from being imported into the USA at that time. I saw an ad for a 22 and perhaps that may be coming. They seem to be more of a symbol than anthing particularly different from other semi-auto rifles.
  3. JohnM

    JohnM Well-Known Member

    In the late '60s I worked construction overseas, in the part of the world I was in the Uzi was everywhere.
    I think they've just been eclipsed by more modern designs.
  4. jon_in_wv

    jon_in_wv Well-Known Member

    Its been manufactured in the US too and if they were popular I have no doubt you would see a lot of them around. The fact is they just fell from favor. They are offer no real advantage over either a pistol or a rifle so people tend to pick an alternative. I would suspect that people who would have been inclined to buy an UZI years ago are much more inclined to buy and AR or an AK47 today.
  5. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Well-Known Member

    After Bush senior restricted importation, they became a collectors item of sorts here. The Carbines with the folding stock were very popular for legal conversion to full auto bolt guns. They are pretty well made. I purchased a carbine at about the time of the ban and it rapidly increased in value. I sold it because I wasn't interested in "collecting" something like that and the accuracy was not particularly great for a rifle. They were however very cool rifles. My expectatios were probably not reasonable considering it was a 9mm "rifle".
  6. bds

    bds Well-Known Member

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  7. rodinal220

    rodinal220 Well-Known Member

    The UZI pistol is supposed to be coming along with the Tavor,sorry no full size or mini-uzis. I saw the uzi pistol at 2013 SHOT and it has been updated with left side cocking and a rail on top,polymer lower,and US style mag release.
    No more imports after Bush SRs 1989 import EO. Mossberg(Uzi America) tried brokering a deal later in the 1990s to sell Uzis and Galils but it never emerged.

  8. Steel Horse Rider

    Steel Horse Rider Well-Known Member

    I once had the opportunity to fire a full auto short barrelled 9mm machine pistol. It was a "pray and spray" weapon as the muzzle climb when firing was not very controllable.

    BBQJOE Well-Known Member

    I guess I'm thinking more about the stigma, than the firearm itself.
    I'm sure there are probably plenty still in collectors safes and all.

    Was the stigma a fad that came and went?
    Was the stigma lost when a ban was put in place?
    Or did people just forget?

    Again, I seem to remember OMG!!!!! He has an Uzi!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

    Is there something that happened with that "fearsome" weapon that we can apply positively right now to squelch this fear that is gripping the public?
  10. parsimonious_instead

    parsimonious_instead Well-Known Member

    I fired a full auto Uzi, and then a full-auto MP5 at a rental range in Las Vegas late last year. No comparison... I felt that the MP5 was far and way the better of the two.
  11. atblis

    atblis Well-Known Member

    Uzis only make sense full auto. Otherwise, why have one?
  12. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    Here's a couple of threads that explore the real underlying answer:

    The long and the short of it is that time passed, weapon development continued, and the Uzi just faded from public memory. Back in the 60s and 70s, and early 80s, every bad guy (movie or real), Mossad agent, SEAL team member, secret service man, high-security guard, drug smuggler, and Bond villain carried the universal Uzi. They were front and center in the public eye (which means television, of course) every day on the news and every evening at the movies. Every "gun violence" news article used the Uzi for its stock clip art image back then. Even if the story was "local man killed with a muzzle-loader," there'd be an Uzi up on the screen over the anchorman's right shoulder. :D

    Then H&K's MP5 stole their spotlight by having better ergos and cachet. The MP5 was suddenly the gun to have, and the Uzi was passe.

    But in the last couple of decades the whole heyday of the submachine gun has ended. Further weapon development has showed the almost universal superiority of the short Assault Rifle/carbine to the pistol-caliber subgun, so even the MP5 and its brethren have faded from the collective mass consciousness. Since few of our enemies (or friends) bother with them, the public just doesn't think about them -- and so loses their specific fear of them.

  13. buck460XVR

    buck460XVR Well-Known Member

    Really? I thought it was because of all the panic buying by those that were previously unprepared. I was under the impression there has been no recent legislation or executive orders directly leading to the shortage......only the recent hoarding and buying of everything in sight by those with the fear they will never be able to get it again. I have been buying guns and ammo for 50 years. Since I started reloading I have been buying enough when it's available so I always have some. Last time my wife was in the reloading room she commented that I probably had enough stuff to last me till I die.....I told her that was the idea. I have all the guns and ammo I'll probably ever need. If you and others don't, the blame is not Obama's....at least not at the moment. If folks don't like the prices and the supply at their LGS, they only need to look in the mirror to know who to blame. Not only because of their panic buying, but because of who they voted for and put into a position of power.

    To get back on topic, the Uzi was one of those firearms whose time came and went. It's shortcomings helped to produce better weapons and thus we have moved on, similar to the Gremlin and the Pacer automobiles from the same era........
  14. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    Of course...and that's related to Obama's continued term in office and public statements by his office, administration, and party regarding their intents and wishes.

    But let's not get off topic with that. The discussion here is of the decline and fall of the Uzi as a perceived public menace.
  15. InkEd

    InkEd Well-Known Member

    The H&K MP-5 and FN P-90 made them obsolete.
  16. snake_plisskin

    snake_plisskin Well-Known Member

    I'm willing to bet the media used it as a generic term like "AR-15" and "glock" today to describe any firearm that looks remotely like it.....

    Eventually they found a new poster child for "gun violence".
  17. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    And, in turn, the M-4 made those obsolete for most purposes.

    Actually, the P-90 has a very specialized role that is so limited as to be a statistical non-entity, but as it follows the M-4 chronologically, it can only be said to have been made obsolete by the M-4 retroactively.
  18. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf member

    Yep. The MP-5 happened to the Uzi.
  19. Dain Bramage

    Dain Bramage Well-Known Member

    Axl Rose's vanity record label was "Uzi Suicide".

    It's all just media smoke-n-mirrors, and the popular scapegoat of the day. If nothing, it's a guide on how things work, and why old folks are jaded, having "been there, and done that" through several cycles of BS. Look up "global cooling", for instance.

    I've never owned an AMC, but it seems unfair to pick both your examples from their stable. I daresay you could ride a BMW and Mercedes of that era, and find it crude and cranky by modern standards.
  20. lemaymiami

    lemaymiami Well-Known Member

    This query about Uzi brings back a few memories... On my "senior trip" to ARVN land, you could always spot the guys who worked for one nameless agency or other since (you guessed it) they were sporting Uzis...

    Considering they were first designed for full auto CQB assault they were tops when they first came out (I don't think there was anything comparable at the time). That was a pretty good while before the popular press noticed them. I'd expect that actual pattern of publicity for each new weapon initially designed for serious business but later popularized by movies and the press....

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