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When will or if the frenzy buying of reloading stuff end?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by bugsbunny45, Jan 18, 2013.

  1. bugsbunny45

    bugsbunny45 Well-Known Member

    I can kinda sorta see why there is panic gun buying but why the panic buying of reloading supplies and equipment. Locally all the gun shops are out of primers and powder. I was trying to get ready for shooting season and did not realize there was such a shortage. I walked in to Gandermountain to grab a few primers and I was SHOCKED all gone powder almost all gone.

    Seems like online most of the reloading kids are soldout.
  2. cfullgraf

    cfullgraf Well-Known Member

    If nothing else happens and based on 2009, it will take about 6 months for inventories to improve and another 6 months for prices to approach pre-election levels.

    All bets are off if there is another incident and/or vote.
  3. gspn

    gspn Well-Known Member

    I'm guessing things will be approaching normal (notice I didn't say they will BE normal) sometime around Sept or Oct. I don't expect to walk into a single store and find ammo or reloading components sitting on the shelf until that time.

    That's why I'm just going to start fishing early this year. I'm not going to sit around sweating it...I'll just go fishing instead.
  4. hentown

    hentown Well-Known Member

    If the Republicans in the House will demonstrate some testicular grandiosity, and I ain't holding my breath, shouldn't take too long. If they let the Community Organizer-in-Chief roll over them, then all bets are off. There is no COGENT reason for the House Republicans to compromise AT ALL on any new proposed gun-control legislation.
  5. USSR

    USSR Well-Known Member

    This is going to go on for a LONG time. Unlike the 2009 drought when there was no direct threat (other than a Dem being elected), now you have the president taking advantage of a tragedy to play to his base. This is likely to last at least until the midterm elections in 2014. Just MHO.

  6. Drail

    Drail Well-Known Member

    Supplies will start being available again when all of the "hoarders" (like me) have built their stockpile up to where they are satisfied. Personally I am still sitting on cases of primers I bought back when the 94 ban was announced. People at that time laughed at me for buying so much. I cannot hardly believe what guys are having to pay now. Just business as usual with our idiots in D.C.
  7. BYJO4

    BYJO4 Well-Known Member

    I also think things will greatly improve over the next 6 months. Buying will slowly level out and production by manufacturers will increase. Just hang in there.
  8. Missionary

    Missionary Well-Known Member

    Yepthat year sounds about right.
    Happily 18 months ago a fellow reloader and I put together a good order. It is nice to watch the frenzy from the sidelines again.
    Mike in ILL
  9. capreppy

    capreppy Well-Known Member

    I stocked up some over the summer. I built a rifle and am building another so my needs changed a little. Worst case scenario and this goes through the end of the year, I'll be fine. My shooting buddy said prepare and I took that advice to heart.

    I am starting to see some product here and here from some of the retailers. The holiday season is over and people are getting back to work and hopefully production is starting to ramp up.

    Powder and primer is definitely still an issue. No way to tell how bad it is since we have no visibility to the back orders at the likes of MidwayUSA or PV or others.
  10. bugsbunny45

    bugsbunny45 Well-Known Member

    One place had a date ob 7 -2013 as a date on primers. I am seeing 2-15-2013 on a lot of Lee reloading kits
  11. 9w1911

    9w1911 Well-Known Member

    Yea I had no idea, never again will i be caught without a ton of stuff. Primers, I cannot get primers off my mind. Cannot buy enough either.
    Score on the 4lbs of 231.
  12. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator

    Between the price of metals going way up and the 2008 election, we had tons of folks get into reloading. The reloading forum was absolutely hopping with new reloaders with questions. It was fun helping to teach a great new wave of reloaders. So far this time is isn't as crazy, so I would hope supply would catch up faster this time. While many had learned during the primer shortage after Clinton was elected, many more people learned a lesson about keeping some extra stock on hand for little inconveniences like this. The ones that struggle the most are those just starting.
  13. Jimbo53

    Jimbo53 Well-Known Member

    With the ammo backlog and the producers trying to produce as much ammo as possible, I wonder how many primers they allocate for the reloading market? Might not be one of their big priorities.
  14. GP100man

    GP100man Well-Known Member

    When ya have to show your reloading permit # to purchase your ration of primers , powder & bullet.

    As far as us casters lead will become the 3rd largest smuggled commodity in the US.

    It`s coming ,just as shore as rain !

    I mite not live to see it ,but it`s coming !!

    I got caught last time ,but not this time !!!
  15. THe Dove


    I like many others (not all but many) got hit hard the last frenzy. However, like many others I have been preparing and yes it is nice to watch the frenzy from the sidelines. I do not enjoy this stuff but it is nice not to be hit in the gut with all that is happening right now. I've been casting for 20 years now and luckily have enough ww and lead to get me through many years of shooting/reloading.

    I just hope for all the fellow firearm brothers and sisters, this frenzy dies down and things can once again be "normal".

    The Dove
  16. hueyville

    hueyville Well-Known Member

    Around me everyone is restocked. Racks full of AR-15's, riot shotguns and Combloc guns. Most are completely restock with components except small rifle primers !nd .22 caliber bullets. Picked up 2 pounds of lil'gun yesterday at one shop. While at another a nice older gentleman came in looking for same powder and some 37 grain bullets for his Hornet. Heard him telling story of calling other shop and drove to town just to get powder. I told him I got it and if he needed would sell him one of the.cans of powder as the decent thing to do. He asked if I had a recommended load for heavy bullets as he was out of smalls. Asked what he wanted, drove to house, met him and handed him a new box of 37 grain bullets. He asked what price was and said had so long didn't remember so just take and enjoy. He gave me his business card and said if ever in need for anything give him a call. So if we all start sharing, the idiots that didn't stockpile a decade ago will stop buying stuff they don't even need, this perceived shortage will end. I have a box full of emails asking how to load 37 gr bullets for autoloaders. I answer that you don't. Every shop in my town is way heavy with powder, primers and bullets except for .22 calibers. Prices are up a bit but suppliers went up. Friend at shot show saying all he orders on the floor is shipping. One local shop actually over 50,000 primers in stock. Nothing has been banned nor will it this week. Stop freaking out.
  17. smokey1

    smokey1 Member

    Look for pricing from manufactures to rise. material costs will increase with inflation setting. If nothing else they are leaving money on the table. Look at what people are charging and what people are paying on the secondary market.
    If someone does not agree then looming anti gun campaign kicking into high gear no telling what crazy tax on ammo or their stupid proposed registering of ammo sales will keep short term demand high and supply choked.

    Sit back and cry later or as a target shooter continue stocking up. There is always ammo on the shelf for 303 British, 17 HMR...

    One last point. There are over 4 million new firearms on the market in the last 2 months. Some of which are first time gun owners. They need ammo as well.
    Out sport continues to grow despite the opposition.
  18. BullfrogKen

    BullfrogKen Moderator Emeritus

    Four years ago the same thing happened. After the market settled, 9 months later, I changed my buying habits. I had never bought powder in 8 lb jugs before. I do now. Yes, its a hit on the new handloaders, but the market will stabilize. When it does, slowly build up your stocks.
  19. USSR

    USSR Well-Known Member

    Sorry, hueyville, but if this is indeed true in your area, it is an anomaly. In 99% of the cases, stores are pretty much bare of primers and powder, with resupply dates far into the future. So, enjoy your particular situation, but the macro situation is simply a case that is taught in any Econ 101 course: demand is exceeding supply due to the perceived threat of government intervention. The solution is not telling guys to "start sharing" and "stop buying stuff they don't even need", but to remove the political climate that is causing the problem to begin with. Just MHO.

  20. hueyville

    hueyville Well-Known Member

    Smokey1 wrote:
    Good point sir. We may have the beginning of a new way to jump start our economy. Once a month have Obama propose a ban on some U.S.A. made product. Next month it could be a ban on American made cars, the next a ban on domestic manufactured electronics etc. Consider the idea of a ban on getting private health insurance policies. There would be a such a rush to actually do what folks should already have done that the idea of government mandated or supplied health care would die a natural death.

    USSR, I cant disagree with you as all I see personally is what is happening in my community. That being said I was stunned yesterday when I went on my biweekly tour de gun shops to see all of them stocked to the gills with AR's, AK's, shotguns, powder, primers, etc. My buddy who has been at Shot Show all week says on everything except 5.56/.223, 7.62x39, 9mm and .22lr ammo; small rifle primers and 62 to 65 grain .223 bullets; quality 30 round AR mags and 7.62x39 mags; everything he has ordered was verified as packaged for shipping as of yesterday evening. He says the stuff that didn't verify as packaged to ship is back ordered and most should be on a truck within 2 weeks according to his vendors. A run can only last so long as the feds will actually ban our sport, people will spend all their disposable income or the suppliers will run double and triple shifts till the shelves restock. So my mid sized local municipality is an anomaly. Maybe because of our demographics most people so inclined to hoard did so in the past. Dunno...

    Here is an idea for those of you having to slow your roll on your reloading/shooting habits due to not having enough stockpile to support your normal consumption. Take your spare time and go get your basic ham radio license. (Technician Class) No knowledge of Morse code is required now, the test is easy and usually only costs about 10 bucks. Then a couple of basic radios and you will have guaranteed two way communications with a surprising large number of like minded folk. I have found most hams are interested in emergency preparedness and guns. If your particular disaster of choice were to happen being able to communicate is going to be of importance.

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