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Where do people get these goofy ideas?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by cratti, Jul 4, 2009.

  1. cratti

    cratti Well-Known Member

    I was talking to an older gentleman today who was convinced that .22LR was the greatest HD/anti-personnel cartridge ever, insisting that the bullet would enter the body and ricochet indefinitely, claiming that "a shot to the stomach might ricochet so much that it comes out your shoulder."
    I get at least one idiot a week who is convinced that the .22 is designed to ricochet inside a human body.

    Logic would dictate that the .22, a rather weak, light bullet, would have fairly limited penetration upon striking a target, and the soft lead bullet would deform quickly upon striking something hard enough to cause a ricochet, thus increasing the speed at which it decelerates.

    Then again, the same guy in question was referring to his 10/22 as the "best sniper rifle money can buy."
  2. Mags

    Mags Well-Known Member

    I often hear the same about the 223 round don't know if it is true or not and don't care. I am more a fan of shot placement.
  3. cratti

    cratti Well-Known Member

    No, the .223 round is designed to "tumble" as well as ricochet. Apparently they think civilian .223 rifle bullets are identical to military 5.56x45 ammo.
  4. jimmyraythomason

    jimmyraythomason Well-Known Member

    I don't know about that but I do know of a 40gr. solid .22 lr entering a canvas shoe directly on top of the big toe going around the bone and exiting directly underneath. This is a FACT, I SAW it myself.
  5. Ron James

    Ron James Well-Known Member

    That's the first I've heard of the 22 bouncing around in the body:eek:, but never under rate the .22LR. I have seen a number of cases where the bullets have gone through the human body and was never recovered. The .22 will also deflect off bone and wind up in funny places quite a distance away from where it entered the body. Because of the small mass of the lead bullet it will have more of a tendency to do than a 9MM or 38. BTW. in Michigan the favorite gun for the Jack Lighters ( poachers ) is the .22 ( low noise ) and also in Florida the poachers use the .22 on gators.
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2009
  6. BruceRDucer

    BruceRDucer Well-Known Member

    As anyone with a bit of sense knows, the large mass of a .22, would empower it to travel through a car door, enter the stomach, ricochet off two Rolaids and a Chili and Cracker Lunch, embark upon a tumble which bounces it back and forth between ribs, upper arm bones, and a ball point pen, until it loses momentum finally, coming to rest in some old gentleman's brain, where it takes on an ethereal form, emerging as an Idea.

    Whaddya mean Goofy Ideas? Are you narrow minded er whut?


    Ohhhh! Wait a minute! You wrote about a .22LR round. That means LOW RECOIL.

    Well sure, if you wanna be technical and all about it, the Low Recoil .22 won't have much power....but that's an extreme idea, goofy in its own right. [Pass the Chips and the Sour Cream, willya? Heh! Heh!]


  7. Acera

    Acera Well-Known Member

    Talk to Ronald Reagan about what a little .22 can do when it gets inside you.
  8. Deltaboy

    Deltaboy Well-Known Member

    All I know is I don't want to be shot with one to find out. I agree with Acera President Reagan almost died from a lowly 22 LR.
  9. FlyinBryan

    FlyinBryan Well-Known Member

    depends on whether you buy milspec bullets.

    i have many times. in fact, ive bought demilled lc before. many times.

    generally the real deal will tumble, and frag due to side loading.
  10. cratti

    cratti Well-Known Member

    Acera and Deltaboy - That was a chest shot that punctured his left lung and narrowly missed his heart. Completely different from the phenomenon people are discussing. It'd be a little bit more relevant if, say, he got shot in the shoulder, the bullet punctured his lung, and a few days later passed with a loud "clink!" into the toilet...

    FlyinBryan - you said it. "The Real Deal."
    Not Remington Cor-Lokt or UMC
  11. FlyinBryan

    FlyinBryan Well-Known Member

    a little soft .22 can really throw a wrench in the works of your bodily functions.

    are others better?

    silly question.
  12. FlyinBryan

    FlyinBryan Well-Known Member

  13. cratti

    cratti Well-Known Member

    Bryan - As another poster said, "Shot placement..."
    A high powered pellet gun could "throw a wrench into the works of your bodily functions," under ideal circumstances.
  14. FlyinBryan

    FlyinBryan Well-Known Member

    Shot placement is important with any caliber.

    i could survive a 50 cal without proper placement.

    ive already said bigger calibers are better stoppers. what do you want? me to say a 22lr tickles? ok it tickles.
  15. Acera

    Acera Well-Known Member

    cratti, but if you remember the bullet did bounce off something before it hit the president. Not trying to get too technical, while it is not a magic bullet, it can do a lot of damage.
  16. dirt_j00

    dirt_j00 Well-Known Member

    I've also heard the ".22LRs ricochet inside your body" line. In fact, it was used to support .22LR over 9mm for SD... :rolleyes:

    I really can't see how any round could "ricochet" that much inside a body. I mean, sure, it may deflect around bones, but ricochet?
  17. Oyeboten

    Oyeboten Well-Known Member

    The older Gentleman has the .22 LR confused with the 6.5 x 52 mm Italian Carcano M91/38 bolt-action rifle with a six-round magazine and bearing
    Serial number C2766, when using
    Western Cartridge Co. ammunition with a 160 grain (10.37 g) round nose bullet, with poorly mounted, loose, and non-zeroed
    Side-mounted Ordnance Optics of a 4 x 18 telescopic sight...and only when fired rapidly out a high window by a certain "A. Hidell".

    Such a Bullet can in fact Zig-Zag, go 'in' and change direction, perforate Bone, viscera and Car Seats, reverse direction, write it's name in the air, pause in mid air, turn and go up, then turn and down, mysteriously shedding lead and copper-jacket debris while remaining perfectly intact, and doing all sorts of things, including ending up on a 'stretcher' for a little nap, looking as well rested and perfect as if it'd been fired into Water...

    No .22 lr could ever hope to emulate these fetes...
  18. jimmyraythomason

    jimmyraythomason Well-Known Member

    Yeah Oyeboten but that bullet was blessed by Castro(and Krushev).
  19. geronimo509

    geronimo509 Well-Known Member

    I was under the impression that a .22 used to be a lot of hitmen's bullet of choice. It's quiet and with a silencer it's very quiet. Also, it has enough power to enter a mans head but not enough to exit and would bounce around, or ricochet, inside someones head. And that would leave little mess.

    I could very well be wrong, but no one else ever heard that?
  20. Dirtpile

    Dirtpile Well-Known Member

    A 5.56 can end up a fair distance away from the entry point in the body if it tumbles like it's supposed to.

    However the record goes to the lowly .22LR where the bullet is small enough to be carried downstream after entering a major blood vessel.

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